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re: How far behind would civilization be today if Islamist had conquered Europe --

Posted on 2/13/17 at 4:06 am to
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42580 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 4:06 am to
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Feminism wouldn't exist


hmmmmmmmm - I am rethinking this now -
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123888 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 4:34 am to
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Through out history Muslims invaded Europe. Where would we be had the Muslims been successful?
You'd have to define "successful".
At the time of the 1st Crusade, Muslim civilization was often more advanced than its European counterpart. But as Islam later became a drag on it's citizens, Europeans would have overthrown it, or dramatically changed it.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 4:56 am to
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The Islamic Empires of the Middle Ages were the cultural center of the world and saved philosophy, science, math, etc.


Yea,especially when they burned down the libraries in Alexandria and across Europe Saved my arse

Persian and Arab culture contibuted FAR MORE to mankind than Islam with much less destruction.
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 9:04 am
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 5:17 am to
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Yeah. Imagine how they would be if England and France had not conquered them and drawn the national borders in a manner which was culturally inappropriate, at least for the local culture.



Imagine if the Ottoman Empire had not ruled the region for 600 years before that...talk about "culturally inappropriate"
Posted by beulahland
Little D'arbonne
Member since Jan 2013
3577 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 5:48 am to
There would be no toilet paper.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64325 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:01 am to
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The amount of knowledge that flowed from the M.E. into Europe after the fall of Rome is immeasurable.


Surprised this statement of fact got 8 downvotes

Impossible to answer the OP with anything other than a wild guess. Its possible that after a overthrow of a Islamic controlled Europe that society would be farther along than it was before the renaissance thus aiding the speed of advancement. Perhaps a Islamic defeat of Italy forever destroys a European renaissance.

I'll just continue to thank Chuck for leading the way in giving Islam the boot.


Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37491 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:03 am to
You are correct. The crusades showed Europeans how much further advanced the Muslim nations were. However, right about the time of the crusades, many Muslim nations quit advancing while Western Culture experienced the renaissance.

Many Muslim cultures want to go back to the 1300's
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