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re: How does the media come up with this stuff?

Posted on 6/21/18 at 6:23 pm to
Posted by AlceeFortier
Member since Dec 2016
1795 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 6:23 pm to
they all lied. still does not make it right. also, the “he did it too” argument is lame.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34973 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 6:24 pm to
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First thing I thought of


Great minds think alike, or

Scary!?
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17420 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 6:25 pm to
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Sometimes the media is correct and you are in denial


Or like this?

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Sanders has reportedly told friends about her plans to depart the Trump administration. Deputy press secretary Raj Shah is also reportedly eyeing a White House exit, but has not yet decided on a departure date.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 6:26 pm to
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Headline: In 497 days, President Trump has made 3,251 false or misleading claims



Is that created or saved misleading claims?

Smells like desperation.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 6:26 pm to
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ow does the media come up with this stuff?
Headline: In 497 days, President Trump has made 3,251 false or misleading claims


Probably by doing their job.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 6:27 pm to
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Is that created or saved misleading claims?

Smells like desperation.


Read the article yourself. Everything is well cited.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23347 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 6:31 pm to
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Probably by doing their job.


Correct, and this job is to be the mouthpiece for the dnc
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 6:32 pm to
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Correct, and this job is to be the mouthpiece for the dnc


By listing facts?

This just in, DNC obsessed with facts!
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 6:56 pm to
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Read the article yourself. Everything is well cited.


You know what else is "well cited"?..."global warming".."fracking causes earthquakes"..and "911 was an inside job".

Appeal to Authority Fallacy.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 6:58 pm to
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You know what else is "well cited"?..."global warming".."fracking causes earthquakes"..and "911 was an inside job".

Appeal to Authority Fallacy.


That's not how that fallacy works. The question had an answer that involved reading the article.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 7:08 pm to
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That's not how that fallacy works.



Wrong.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 7:09 pm to
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That's not how that fallacy works.


Wrong.


An argument from authority, also called an appeal to authority, or argumentum ad verecundiam is a form of defeasible argument in which a claimed authority's support is used as evidence for an argument's conclusion

Now go back and read what I wrote. Then read the definition again.

Do that until you understand.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48908 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 7:11 pm to
Yep. Nothing like hard hitting fact checking. It took 13 months not 12. You got him now!
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 7:13 pm to
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An argument from authority, also called an appeal to authority, or argumentum ad verecundiam is a form of defeasible argument in which a claimed authority's support is used as evidence for an argument's conclusion

Thats nice. Six of one..half dozen of the other.

You claim that the conclusions and opinions of the people stated in the article, based on their interpretation of selective "facts" validate their conclusion.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 7:17 pm to
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You claim that the conclusions and opinions of the people stated in the article, based on their interpretation of selective "facts" validate their conclusion.


Not their interpretation of it. The fact itself.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 7:24 pm to
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Not their interpretation of it. The fact itself.


You can have your own opinion, but you can't have your own facts.

As was pointed out, one of these "lies" is claiming 12 months when it was 13 months. The shear fact that such irrelevant drivel is somehow proof of "lying", makes my case.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 7:26 pm to
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As was pointed out, one of these "lies" is claiming 12 months when it was 13 months. The shear fact that such irrelevant drivel is somehow proof of "lying", makes my case.


Is it a lie, or not?

It either is or it isn't.

Was it 13 months? or 12? Did he say 13? or did he say 12?

Whether he miss spoke, or however irrelevant you deem it, doesn't have any bearing on whether or not it's a lie.
Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
4491 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 7:30 pm to
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Headline: In 497 days, President Trump has made 3,251 false or misleading claims


How many false or misleading claims has our wonderful MSM made in the last 497 days? I'll bet it's more than they claim Trump made..
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 8:31 pm to
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Is it a lie, or not?

It either is or it isn't.


False Dichotomy Fallacy.
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