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How do you think Trump is coming along with the swamp draining?

Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:39 pm
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29169 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:39 pm
DJT got my vote for two reasons: I can't stand Hillary and to drain the swamp. Hillary's entitled self was kept out of office so that puts a smile on my face, but now onto the more important step: the swamp draining.

D.C. is a corrupt shitehole, how has The Donald faired in cleaning it up and what would you say his accomplishments thus far would be? And do you feel satisfied with him and his efforts thus far in this regard?
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76341 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:40 pm to
I don't think he or anyone can make D.C. not corrupt
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:40 pm to
What EXACTLY has he drained?
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79235 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:41 pm to
Well considering Trump is already seeking a bunch of ethics waivers, including for lobbyists...not that well?
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17943 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:43 pm to
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What EXACTLY has he drained?

Our wallets. Gave that shite to israel instead.
Posted by RantardoMontalbon
Member since May 2017
421 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:45 pm to
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What EXACTLY has he drained?

Google the number of politically appointed positions that remain unfilled.
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:46 pm to
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Google the number of politically appointed positions that remain unfilled


YOu call that draining? That's only because of an inept administration.
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:49 pm to
I would argue that the swamp has not been drained and may or not be but via Trump we see it now. He has shown us all that we live in a fantasy.

He has shown us all that we live within an orchestrated machine that serves the powerful establishment that will correct the mistakes they feel are made by the electorate.
This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 9:50 pm
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:50 pm to
The problem is, its a really big swamp. And a powerful one, too. As just one example, look at how much Senators McCain and Graham hate Trump. Not onoy are they part of the swamp, but both despise Trump on a personal level.

Those two will oppose every legislative measure Trump proposes. That's why the "Senate GOP Majority" is a misnomer, because these two alone make it a 50/50 split.

Trump has done some good work on his own, but Ryan and McConnell are betraying him. Then again, why would they want the swamp to be drained? They're part of it.
Posted by Lsujacket66
Member since Dec 2010
4792 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:51 pm to
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What EXACTLY has he drained?


lol he fired Comey and is at war with the IC and establishment right now
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123945 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:28 pm to
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D.C. is a corrupt shitehole, how has The Donald faired in cleaning it up and what would you say his accomplishments thus far would be? And do you feel satisfied with him and his efforts thus far in this regard?
The "corrupt shitehole" has never been this exposed, or vulnerable. In and of itself, that is an accomplishment. Trump is dragging uniparty RINOs fully out into the open. That is a major accomplishment. It is far far far to early to pass judgement on Trump as a POTUS, but considering the death match he's embroiled in, he's actually been ok so far.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:28 pm to
A president doesn't have the ability to drain the swamp; he can only expose it, which is has done.
Posted by larry289
Holiday Island, AR
Member since Nov 2009
3858 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:38 pm to
He's rescinded regulations by the thousands, new regs must be offset by removal of two, his budget is calling for a cut of 30+% of EPA...that's a start.

...and no, I don't agree with everything he's doing, but not going to give up on him. Eight years of the last POS, I can stand a hell of a lot of flack at this point.

As a charter member of the old Citizens Against Government Waste (back in the 80's), there was a list published each year of every single bit of waste in the Fed. The last report I saw was back around '03 if I remember correctly. It was 8 pages (letter size), #6 font, front and back. Recollect the total being close to $750B.

Not sure if CAGW is still around.
Posted by roux
Tiger Territory
Member since Dec 2006
1590 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:38 pm to
I think he's trying but I doubt anyone can do it. It may seriously take a major economic collapse
Posted by King
Deep in the backwoods
Member since Sep 2008
18426 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:46 pm to
Overthrow and start from scratch. Thats the movement needed. We are beyond that now. We are all destined to slavery and poverty by the rich. We gonna die honkeys.
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:49 pm to
Lets See:

6 Goldman Sachs appointments:

- Steven Mnuchin(Treasury)
- Gary Cohn(National Economic Counsel)
- Dina Powell(advisor),
- Jay Clayton(SEC Chairman)
- Steve Bannon(Chief Strategist),
- Anthony Scaramuchi(announced but not yet appointed for Director of Public liaison and government affairs, was a key advisor to the campaign)
- * Jim Donovon(turned down second in line at the Treasury)

A slew of big donors and career swamp members to positions in government

Dozens of lobbyists hired.

Doing a good job skirting its own ethics rules

A vast web of conflicts of interest.

The swamp is pretty big, I guess Trump figured the best way to curb some of its growth was to start stashing them away in his government?
This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 11:22 pm
Posted by PepeSilvia
Member since Apr 2017
360 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:07 pm to
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He has shown us all that we live within an orchestrated machine that serves the powerful establishment that will correct the mistakes they feel are made by the electorate.


It's my opinion that legislation like Citizens United is one of the prime reasons for that machines superb functioning, and that's probably why I'll never vote Republican again. You can't drain the swamp as long as you allow lobbyists the campaign contribution latitude they now enjoy.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29169 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:09 pm to
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It's my opinion that legislation like Citizens United is one of the prime reasons for that machines superb functioning, and that's probably why I'll never vote Republican again. You can't drain the swamp as long as you allow lobbyists the campaign contribution latitude they now enjoy.


I agreed. The idea that money = speech is bullshite and erodes our democracy.
Posted by skiptumahloo
Member since Mar 2017
714 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:10 pm to
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Google the number of politically appointed positions that remain unfilled.


That's called consolidation of power.
Posted by VolInBavaria
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Dec 2015
4026 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:11 pm to
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What EXACTLY has he drained?


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