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re: How did the IRS emails disappear?
Posted on 6/24/14 at 8:33 am to a want
Posted on 6/24/14 at 8:33 am to a want
Here is how this more than likely went down:
Lerner: "They want ALL my emails."
WH Contact : "Oh shite"
Lerner: "what do you want me to do?"
WH: "Oh shite!!!"
Lerner: "I heard you the first time."
WH: "you understand that cannot happen."
Lerner: "you still haven't told me what to do"
WH: "just say your PC crashed, happens all the time"
Lerner: "what about the back up system and the other employees in on this?"
WH: "oh shite"
Lerner: "i guess they spilled coffee on their PC too?"
WH: "YEAH!! that works, these dumbasses will believe anything this big eared fricker tells them"
Lerner: "back up system?"
WH: "we'll just have their contract cancelled and those can be "lost" in the transition and threaten them with an audit or some shite, they'll play ball"
or something along those lines........
Lerner: "They want ALL my emails."
WH Contact : "Oh shite"
Lerner: "what do you want me to do?"
WH: "Oh shite!!!"
Lerner: "I heard you the first time."
WH: "you understand that cannot happen."
Lerner: "you still haven't told me what to do"
WH: "just say your PC crashed, happens all the time"
Lerner: "what about the back up system and the other employees in on this?"
WH: "oh shite"
Lerner: "i guess they spilled coffee on their PC too?"
WH: "YEAH!! that works, these dumbasses will believe anything this big eared fricker tells them"
Lerner: "back up system?"
WH: "we'll just have their contract cancelled and those can be "lost" in the transition and threaten them with an audit or some shite, they'll play ball"
or something along those lines........
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 8:38 am to bamarep
quote:
Lerner: "what about the back up system and the other employees in on this?"
WH: "oh shite"
Lerner: "i guess they spilled coffee on their PC too?"
yep, these people are so arrogant, they've convinced themselves that the public really believes this bullshite.
this is a huge cover up.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 8:42 am to monsterballads
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this is a huge cover up.
No shite. It's more a question as to whether they'll get called on it.
At this point it looks like they might, as former Clinton arse-sucker Paul Begala is the only media talking head who is claiming this is a big nothing-burger.
Most other media people who talked about this are in agreement that there's a scandal here, such as former Penn Gov. Ed Rendell.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 8:43 am to bamarep
I believe Lerner's cpu crashed 16 days before she learned of the IRS targeting.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 8:47 am to a want
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I believe Lerner's cpu crashed 16 days before she learned of the IRS targeting.
Before she "learned" of the IRS targeting?
Did she have to hear about her fricking criminal activities on the fricking news?
Posted on 6/24/14 at 8:48 am to Vols&Shaft83
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Did she have to hear about her fricking criminal activities on the fricking news?
Look at the President she works for and ask that question again.
She probably found out from the newspapers and declared herself to be mad as hell.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 8:49 am to a want
quote:
I believe Lerner's cpu crashed 16 days before she learned of the IRS targeting.
I know you don't want to believe this, but rogue agents in Cincy did not originate this on their own - regardless of where this originated, it was a coordinated effort that had to at least have had Lerner's tacit approval at the beginning. Maybe it went further than they intended and they certainly didn't want it to get out, but it is more than incompetent management - the 7 strategic hard drive failures conclusively establishes this.
The problem is that's a pretty big group - get those other 6 in separate rooms and see what stories they tell.
This could get a lot worse for the IRS before it gets better.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 8:50 am to a want
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 8:51 am to a want
quote:
I believe Lerner's cpu crashed 16 days before she learned of the IRS targeting.
Like the 18 1/2 minute gap was before Nixon "learned" of the Watergate break-in when he read about it in the Washington Post?
This post was edited on 6/24/14 at 8:52 am
Posted on 6/24/14 at 8:52 am to a want
quote:
I believe Lerner's cpu crashed 16 days before she learned of the IRS targeting.
I believe it's more likely that she was apart of the targeting and once the door was knocked on ten days prior to her CPU crash, the chain of events was set into motion. Ten days is an interesting timeframe when dealing with a coverup.
I for one don't necessarily believe anyone in the White House was directing this operation and it doesn't matter if they were..
Posted on 6/24/14 at 8:53 am to TROLA
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I for one don't necessarily believe anyone in the White House was directing this operation
Of course, now we'll never know as the evidence has been destroyed (either way).
quote:
it doesn't matter if they were..
It absolutely does matter - if the WH was involved - in any way - this is 100x as bad as it is - and it is very bad now.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 8:53 am to bamarep
quote:
WH: "Oh shite!!!"
Lerner: "I heard you the first time."
Posted on 6/24/14 at 8:53 am to a want
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They don't want you to keep emails. My company, for example, only keeps emails for 3 months. It's up the the employees to archive emails.
Their stated reason: free up disc space. The truth: That's complete bull shite. "Disc space" hasn't been a problem since the 90s (at least for the type of large organizations like the IRS and the large military contractor I work for). The bottom line is plausible deniability . They want to purge them as fast as possible.
My company does this as well, but I work at a large refinery. Could it be that this is just kind of a unnecessary survival from the 90's?
Posted on 6/24/14 at 8:57 am to Ace Midnight
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I know you don't want to believe this, but rogue agents in Cincy did not originate this on their own - regardless of where this originated, it was a coordinated effort that had to at least have had Lerner's tacit approval at the beginning.
Yeah, there are 2 parts to this story - at least as I see it. One is the massive organizational failure - missing emails, etc.(definitely a big problem). The second is the potential cover-up/conspiracy ( I don't know - as I said they need to conduct an in depth investigation).
Posted on 6/24/14 at 8:57 am to a want
quote:
I believe Lerner's cpu crashed 16 days before she learned of the IRS targeting.
uh - no.
It crashed 10 days after an interrogatory from Rep Camp concerning a lot of miscellaneous things, but among them were questions about the IRS targeting - as I understand it.
I am certain that VJ - or one of her lackies - was keeping tabs on the whole affair and quickly initiated action to keep evidence away from any real investigation.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 8:59 am to bamarep
7 hard drives crash, all participants in this scandal at one time 
So we destroy the hard drives, and say some of the government computers are old and not up to date?
But only the people in this scandal have old out of date computers, and you resident Obama nut lickers just lap it up!!!
If you believe this nonsense, it's mighty hard for anyone to be taken serious that posts in here.
:rotflmao:
So we destroy the hard drives, and say some of the government computers are old and not up to date?
But only the people in this scandal have old out of date computers, and you resident Obama nut lickers just lap it up!!!
If you believe this nonsense, it's mighty hard for anyone to be taken serious that posts in here.
:rotflmao: Posted on 6/24/14 at 8:59 am to LSUsuperfresh
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My company does this as well, but I work at a large refinery. Could it be that this is just kind of a unnecessary survival from the 90's?
Maybe, but if I were CEO (for military, private or any other type of company) I'd purge emails (b/c I wouldn't want anyone to be able to prove anything) and blame it on disc space.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 9:03 am to a want
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Maybe, but if I were CEO (for military, private or any other type of company) I'd purge emails (b/c I wouldn't want anyone to be able to prove anything) and blame it on disc space.
The problem is that the IRS is notoriously harsh on taxpayers who can't dig up whatever records they want.
An agency who expects taxpayers to have 7 years of records so they can crawl up your arse with a microscope does NOT get the benefit of the doubt when they go "Oops, my bad!" when something goes missing.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 9:06 am to teke184
I know - I pointed that out in an earlier post.
The IRS must be beyond reproach.
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I should have said If I were CEO I would have a want to purge emails... I wouldn't actually purge them if I was in charge of the IRS
The IRS must be beyond reproach.
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I should have said If I were CEO I would have a want to purge emails...
I wouldn't actually purge them if I was in charge of the IRS This post was edited on 6/24/14 at 9:18 am
Posted on 6/24/14 at 9:07 am to teke184
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The problem is that the IRS is notoriously harsh on taxpayers who can't dig up whatever records they want.
An agency who expects taxpayers to have 7 years of records so they can crawl up your arse with a microscope does NOT get the benefit of the doubt when they go "Oops, my bad!" when something goes missing.
I would give you 100 infinite "up votes" if possible.
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