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re: Homosexuality not caused by genetics. They ar not "born that way ETA Addit link added
Posted on 7/4/17 at 8:55 am to PrimeTime Money
Posted on 7/4/17 at 8:55 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:Indeed it could be explained that way. If it were though, isolated twin studies would demonstrate normalized incidence.
That may be explained by the fact that they are identical twins and are 5-fold more likely to have the same post-birth experiences
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Posted on 7/4/17 at 8:56 am to NC_Tigah
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guess I have the advantage in having read isolated twin monozygotic studies which demonstrate nearly identical numbers
Fair enough, but your responses to this study in isolation have been absurd. Can you link the study you are referring to please?
Thanks.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 8:56 am to Errerrerrwere
I'm not a geneticist but wouldn't the study only show that homosexuality isn't exclusively a genetic trait?
Posted on 7/4/17 at 8:56 am to Vacherie Saint
quote:There is substantial chance it is multifactorial.
Where's the science that says it's genetic?
Isnt there's a better chance that it's a compulsion?
Posted on 7/4/17 at 8:59 am to imjustafatkid
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It's simple. Man is a sinful creature, and without God we will be tempted by whatever works to move us further away from God. This will never be an accepted answer, but it's the answer nonetheless.
This completely goes over most people's heads. Everyone has an innate proclivity for sin, some more than others. Whether it's greed,pride,lust, etc. we're all born from original sin and will be tempted to sin all of our natural born days.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:00 am to Errerrerrwere
A lot of studies are showing correlation with nursing on formula instead of breastmilk
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:00 am to Turbeauxdog
quote:There have been many. I suspect, without pursuing it, some isolated twin reports are included in this fellow's own survey of existing studies.
Fair enough, but your responses to this study in isolation have been absurd. Can you link the study you are referring to please?
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:02 am to Bass Tiger
quote:Maybe so.
Everyone has an innate proclivity for sin
OTOH not everyone has an innate proclivity for "sinning" with the same sex.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:09 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:But twin studies are supposed to tease that out by using various level of controls (siblings, twins who were separated, etc.).
That may be explained by the fact that they are identical twins and are 5-fold more likely to have the same post-birth experiences compared to other siblings.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:10 am to Antonio Moss
quote:Yes. And I'm skeptical or an article that has a scientist that says "we would expect it to be 100%." It seems made up.
I'm not a geneticist but wouldn't the study only show that homosexuality isn't exclusively a genetic trait?
This post was edited on 7/4/17 at 9:11 am
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:17 am to NC_Tigah
Addiction like alcoholism is significantly more likely to show up in subsequent generations. That doesn't make it genetic, and not surprisingly, there aren't mega millions in research grants available to get to that conclusion.
Common genetic traits may cause relatives to get the same sense of euphoria from alcohol, plus the pain of living with an alcoholic can often drive family members into the same destructive behavior.
I'm think that is what we a really dealing with here. I think you would agree that there is more circumstantial evidence that alcolism is genetic than homosexuality based on rate of reccurence within families.
Jhmo
Common genetic traits may cause relatives to get the same sense of euphoria from alcohol, plus the pain of living with an alcoholic can often drive family members into the same destructive behavior.
I'm think that is what we a really dealing with here. I think you would agree that there is more circumstantial evidence that alcolism is genetic than homosexuality based on rate of reccurence within families.
Jhmo
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:17 am to Errerrerrwere
Why would anyone care if being gay is genetic or not?
Should i care who other people like to frick?
Should i care who other people like to frick?
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:22 am to LSUGrrrl
quote:We don't understand the motives of animals nearly enough to even qualify such behavior as bona fide homosexuality.
Ok Just because all animals can be assholes doesn't negate that homosexuality occurs naturally throughout the animal kingdom. Your argument disproves nothing.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:27 am to mahdragonz
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Why would anyone care if being gay is genetic or not?
Should i care who other people like to frick?
I'm with you, buthe understanding if it's genetic or compulsive if pretty significant. What if it could be treated? I think people would be shocked at how many gays would seek that treatment.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:30 am to Errerrerrwere
If it is ever determined it is genetics and the gene is found you will see a sea change regarding the left's opinion of abortion in certain cases.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:31 am to mahdragonz
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Why would anyone care if being gay is genetic or not? Should i care who other people like to frick?
We/you react according to Genetic/Cultural influence, md. What with the prevailing Culture
War being fought on a Political battlefield, it's no anomaly that people from polar Ideologies "care". It's a moral civic responsibility to "care".
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:33 am to Vacherie Saint
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I'm with you, buthe understanding if it's genetic or compulsive if pretty significant. What if it could be treated? I think people would be shocked at how many gays would seek that treatment.
Why would they seek treatment?
There is nothing intrinsically wrong with being gay.
It would be like seeking treatment bc your second toe is longer than your first toe.
Only busy bodies who are interested in the genitals of others have a problem.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:35 am to el Gaucho
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A lot of studies are showing correlation with nursing on formula instead of breastmilk
Some studies point to introducing hot dogs too early in the infants development. If given hot dogs when to young to eat them the infant just sucks on them, and then it's just a couple steps away from turning out a pole smoker.
Science! Peer reviewed! Consensus! The debate is over!
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:36 am to mahdragonz
quote:
Why would they seek treatment?
There is nothing intrinsically wrong with being gay.
There is nothing intrinsically wrong with being a guy but there are people who want their dicks chopped off nonetheless.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 9:37 am to Errerrerrwere
And yet most of them will swear and believe that they are born gay.
This is a fascinating topic.
We have one experiment in progress. There is a Lesbian couple raising a baby girl and they intend for her to be a Lesbian. Let's see if the experiment works.
This is a fascinating topic.
We have one experiment in progress. There is a Lesbian couple raising a baby girl and they intend for her to be a Lesbian. Let's see if the experiment works.
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