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Homeland Sec Committee Dems concerned about BORTAC’s authorityin stopping Uvalde shooter

Posted on 6/3/22 at 12:36 pm
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/3/22 at 12:36 pm
@Anna_Giaritelli
House Democrats intend to hold a hearing to determine exactly what legal authority Border Patrol/ICE agents had to have gotten involved in (and stopped) the Uvalde shooting and potential future incidents

At the same time, Homeland Dems “commend” federal agents for saving the day

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Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 6/3/22 at 12:38 pm to
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House Democrats intend to hold a hearing to determine exactly what legal authority Border Patrol/ICE agents had to have gotten involved in (and stopped) the Uvalde shooting and potential future incidents


I feel like I'm being spun around in a gunny sack.

ETA: Things like this just add fuel to the conspiracy theory fire that these events are orchestrated by nefarious actors.
This post was edited on 6/3/22 at 12:48 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/3/22 at 12:39 pm to
“Great catch, Hayes! Don’t ever fricking do it again!”

Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 6/3/22 at 12:41 pm to
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House Democrats intend to hold a hearing to determine exactly what legal authority Border Patrol/ICE agents had to have gotten involved in (and stopped) the Uvalde shooting and potential future incidents



That guy who grabbed an old shotgun and charged in their had a daughter at the school. That is all the authority you need.

Local law enforcement went weak kneed and Border Patrol stepped up
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62513 posts
Posted on 6/3/22 at 12:42 pm to
They must have wanted the death toll to be higher….Seems like Dems wanted “The deadliest school shooting “ headline, and this dude didn’t give it to them…
Posted by Lightning
Texas
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Posted on 6/3/22 at 12:42 pm to
Dems asking the hard questions - "When little kids are getting mass murdered, what IS the proper chain of command?"
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
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Posted on 6/3/22 at 12:44 pm to
Seems like democrats are more upset that the shooting was stopped than they are about the shooting itself.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62513 posts
Posted on 6/3/22 at 12:44 pm to
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That guy who grabbed an old shotgun and charged in their had a daughter at the school. That is all the authority you need.



Yeah, think he was off duty, and not acting in his official capacity, other than “ I’m dad, stfu”….
Posted by Lou the Jew from LSU
Member since Oct 2006
4713 posts
Posted on 6/3/22 at 12:47 pm to
His wife also I believe
Posted by HughsWorkPhone
Member since Sep 2017
1151 posts
Posted on 6/3/22 at 12:54 pm to
Wasn’t the border patrol agent a parent? Or spouse of a teacher?
Posted by Mrwhodat
Member since Dec 2015
10296 posts
Posted on 6/3/22 at 1:01 pm to
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Homeland Sec Committee Dems concerned about BORTAC’s authorityin stopping Uvalde shooter

Translation:

Border Patrol/ICE agents interfered with a false flag operation and the DEMS wanted a higher death count.
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53418 posts
Posted on 6/3/22 at 1:01 pm to
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Dems asking the hard questions - "When little kids are getting mass murdered, what IS the proper chain of command?"


I mean, is that not what they did to our military for the past few decades?
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24969 posts
Posted on 6/3/22 at 1:08 pm to
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"When little kids are getting mass murdered, what IS the proper chain of command?"

You are a lawyer, correct?

It might not be the legal or proper procedural thing to do... but I do believe we'd both agree that in that scenario, anyone with the situational circumstances that would allow them to summarily put down the threat with extreme prejudice, should do just that.

If I've got a kid in a classroom with a gunman and the cops are doing nothing and trying to hold me back, I'll disobey and deal with the consequences later. They can shoot me in the back or put me in jail after I save some kids. Ironically, I probably actually would get put in jail for carrying a firearm into a school. But if I find myself in an advantageous position to end the threat, I'll take it.
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
10897 posts
Posted on 6/3/22 at 1:12 pm to
How dare you hurt children!

How dare you stop the rights of another to hurt children!
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
10495 posts
Posted on 6/3/22 at 1:16 pm to
The border patrol interferes with their agenda. They wanted MOREA kids to be shot.

These people are evil
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15464 posts
Posted on 6/3/22 at 1:20 pm to
These idiots are stuck.

Dems: “we need to have federal law govern state run schools.”

Also Dems: “no not that federal law. Not the bad ones.”
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
6873 posts
Posted on 6/3/22 at 1:21 pm to
So they are going to try and jack this dude up and make an example of him?

For protecting his wife and daughter (not to mention all the rest of the wives and kids)

That seems like the Dem way.

Posted by Bamadiver
Member since Jun 2014
3227 posts
Posted on 6/3/22 at 1:31 pm to
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The border patrol interferes with their agenda.
Or, tinfoil engaged, they want to show that a stronger federal presence is needed in all schools, since offduty feds are better than locals. And if you want that federal presence, you will follow our rules, further entrenching themselves. They never pass up an opportunity.
This post was edited on 6/3/22 at 1:33 pm
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
45066 posts
Posted on 6/3/22 at 1:49 pm to
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So they are going to try and jack this dude up and make an example of him?


Would not be the least bit surprised if he ends up facing criminal charges over this.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96421 posts
Posted on 6/3/22 at 2:05 pm to
They can try.

I see a jury nullification if they manage to get it to trial and a bunch of questions as to why the guy who stopped the shooter is being punished but not the cops who refused to act.
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