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Posted on 3/30/14 at 2:00 pm to GREENHEAD22
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Should have been hung for war crimes
Sherman admitted as much himself.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 2:06 pm to GREENHEAD22
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Should have been hung for war crimes, frick that POS.
If you believe that then you must also believe that quite a few of our leading officers in World War II should have also been hanged for war crimes. Because what they did was many times worse than what Sherman did to Georgia and South Carolina.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 2:37 pm to RollTide1987
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If you believe that then you must also believe that quite a few of our leading officers in World War II should have also been hanged for war crimes. Because what they did was many times worse than what Sherman did to Georgia and South Carolina
If you cant see the difference between the south and WW2 you need help.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 2:45 pm to bencoleman
what's the difference between dresden in wwii and sherman's burning of atlanta/the countryside? ...
Posted on 3/30/14 at 2:46 pm to bencoleman
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If you cant see the difference between the south and WW2 you need help.
Perhaps you need some help...or a book. Read Gen. Curtis Lemay's quote regarding his hypothetical trial for war crimes had the allies lost.
Oh, btw, Grant was instrumental in winning the most fearsome war ever fought under the flag of the United States. Lee suffered the most humiliating defeat ever suffered by an American General officer and traitor.
This post was edited on 3/30/14 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 3/30/14 at 2:55 pm to Navytiger74
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Perhaps you need some help...
Perhaps I do. We are talking about a war that sooner or later was going to be over and everybody was going to have to live with one another again. I am not sure a scorched earth policy would be the best way to do that, I could see where that would cause resentment for quite a long time.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 2:59 pm to bencoleman
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We are talking about a war that sooner or later was going to be over and everybody was going to have to live with one another again.
Kind of reminds me of the firebombing of Dresden and Tokyo in 1945.
The North and the South were at war with each other in 1864. What Sherman did was part of that war and helped hasten the end of it. Many soldiers in Robert E. Lee's army deserted from Petersburg to return home to their farms because of what he was doing.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 3:05 pm to RollTide1987
Could it not be said that Jefferson Davis's efforts hurt the war effort to a large extent as well?
This post was edited on 3/30/14 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 3/30/14 at 3:07 pm to blackrose890
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Could it not be said that Jefferson Davis's efforts hurt the war effort to a large extent as well?
Who said that Jefferson Davis tried to do what God Himself could not do, that is, make a soldier out of Braxton Bragg?
Posted on 3/30/14 at 3:34 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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Who said that Jefferson Davis tried to do what God Himself could not do, that is, make a soldier out of Braxton Bragg?
Jefferson Davis should have listened to his generals and relieved Bragg from command. Every single general who served under him in Georgia and Tennessee hated his guts.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 3:40 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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Who said that Jefferson Davis tried to do what God Himself could not do, that is, make a soldier out of Braxton Bragg?
Fighting Joe Johnston - one of the most underrated men in American history.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 3:47 pm to Ace Midnight
Sherman was no worse than Andrew Jackson. People crying over Sherman's "atrocities" are the same ones who criticize the redskins for wanting to remove Jackson's statue from Jackson Square.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 3:59 pm to tiderider
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what's the difference between dresden in wwii and sherman's burning of atlanta/the countryside? ...
There isn't one.
We dropped regular bombs on Dresden first to blow out the windows in the city so the fire bombs would be more effective due to increased air flow through it's buildings.
And rightfully so.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 4:22 pm to Scoop
It's a common misconception that Sherman set fire to Atlanta. It was actually the Confederates who did that. They set fire to their ammo dump and it got out of control. Sherman just didn't make an effort to put it out.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 4:25 pm to NoNameNeeded
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The North won because the northern military came from an all around better stock that possessed a superior work ethic and overall health. Most southern troops were illiterate and impoverished, many of them malnourished and held into abject poverty by their aristocratic and exploitative elites.
Wat.
This post was edited on 3/30/14 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 3/30/14 at 4:49 pm to RollTide1987
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It's a common misconception that Sherman set fire to Atlanta.
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November 14, 1864: After ordering the city evacuated of all citizens, Union Maj. Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman's army burns most of Atlanta, Ga., to the ground. The troops burn all but about 400 buildings, including homes and businesses, with estimates of the total number of buildings destroyed ranging from 3,200 to 5,000. The next day, Sherman's army would begin their march toward the port of Savannah, which would become known as Sherman's March to the Sea.
Pictured are ruins of the Atlanta Union Depot after it was burned by Sherman's troops.
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quote:The second link includes pictures of the tragic civilian evacuation ordered by Sherman prior to his burning Atlanta down. Also includes a pic of troops managing the city's destruction.
After a plea by Father Thomas O'Reilly of the Immaculate Conception Catholic Church, Sherman did not burn the city's churches or hospitals. However, the remaining war resources were then destroyed in the aftermath and in Sherman's March to the Sea. These included Edward A. Vincent's railroad depot, built in 1853.
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I don't get the need you have for anti-southern revisionism.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 4:52 pm to NC_Tigah
My bad. I got Richmond and Atlanta confused. Sherman DID set fire to Atlanta but he ordered only buildings of military significance to be burned. His troops got out of control, however, and started setting fire to other buildings. But Sherman being Sherman, he had no sympathy and thus didn't order the fires to be put out.
While the burning of Atlanta really sucks, there is a mythology concerning just how bad it was. Only 30% of the city was actually destroyed.
While the burning of Atlanta really sucks, there is a mythology concerning just how bad it was. Only 30% of the city was actually destroyed.
This post was edited on 3/30/14 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 3/30/14 at 4:56 pm to RollTide1987
quote:He intended to burn churches and hospitals to the ground. Military significance?
but he ordered only buildings of military significance to be burned.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 4:59 pm to NC_Tigah
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He intended to burn churches and hospitals to the ground. Military significance?
But he didn't, did he? Instead he shifted his focus to only things of military value. His troops, however, decided to burn other things.
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