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re: Hillary Clinton is not President & Gorsuch is on the Supreme Court

Posted on 4/12/17 at 10:48 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 10:48 pm to
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But, we've also had a substantial reduction in illegal immigration (pre-wall), TPP is DOA, business investment is way up (pre-tax reform), respect for law & order is no longer a 4-letter word, and the rest of the world once again respects America.

Pretty. Good. Start.


Obamacare is still the law of the land and Trump's already backing down from his timeline on tax reform.

I guess it just depends what's important to you.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 10:54 pm to
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 10:56 pm to
I never had any expectation that it would be easy or that every one of my policy expectations would be met. Especially with an honest intellectual schism between different factions within the Republican Party.And the single most important issue to me occurred with the swearing in of Judge Gorsuch last week. Nobody bats 1000, and I've been around long enough to enjoy the victories that happen. Tax reform will happen. But I'm not going to go into a perma- melt because it doesn't happen on my timeline.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84784 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:08 pm to
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I never had any expectation that it would be easy or that every one of my policy expectations would be met. Especially with an honest intellectual schism between different factions within the Republican Party.And the single most important issue to me occurred with the swearing in of Judge Gorsuch last week. Nobody bats 1000, and I've been around long enough to enjoy the victories that happen. Tax reform will happen. But I'm not going to go into a perma- melt because it doesn't happen on my timeline.


I'm mostly in the same boat, but this idea that every set back is some kind of next-level scheming is just asinine. We should be able to call a spade a spade when he fails to follow through and/or changes his stance on campaign promises.
Posted by LSUgrad08112
Member since May 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:15 pm to
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The more time he's had, the farther he's straying from his campaign promises. I'm not sure how that is even debatable

Which ones? I'm sure I won't get a response since he's delivered on his campaign promises at a rate unlike anything we've seen in the modern era.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:24 pm to
And now China has agreed to trade negotiations, and is assisting with NK??

Why on GODS green earth would Trump endanger that? He used a negotiating tactic while campaigning, and it now has worked??

WTF else do you want?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84784 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:34 pm to
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Which ones? I'm sure I won't get a response since he's delivered on his campaign promises at a rate unlike anything we've seen in the modern era.




- Hiring freeze designed to reduce federal workforce through attrition has already been lifted.

-China's currency manipulation, as I already stated

-Obamacare

-Tax reform

-Immigration ban from "terror-prone" regions without having the balls to touch Saudi, Egypt, or Pakistan

Again, he's done well in areas, and I can appreciate his victories, but I'm also not going to bow down and acquiesce to his shortcomings thus far, particularly when they're of the most importance to me - healthcare and the economy.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84784 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:42 pm to
quote:

And now China has agreed to trade negotiations, and is assisting with NK??

Why on GODS green earth would Trump endanger that? He used a negotiating tactic while campaigning, and it now has worked??

WTF else do you want?



1) Either they are or are not a currency manipulator.

2) What trade deal? I'm aware of the press conference comments, but what is the substance of this trade deal.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37613 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:42 pm to
quote:

Wait until The Ginsburg replacement goes to Ted Cruz or somebody to the right of Scalia. That will be epic.


Now THAT would be epic.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5833 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:43 pm to
Beautiful chocolate cake.

"We just launched 59 missiles heading toward Iraq".

Wrong country but great cake
This post was edited on 4/12/17 at 11:45 pm
Posted by LSUgrad08112
Member since May 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:54 pm to
quote:

e federal workforce through attrition has already been lifted.

It was a 90 day hiring freeze. It also included a clause that all government agencies must submit plans to reduce fraud, etc. to be able to hire again. So this is him backing down on a campaign promise how exactly?
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China's currency manipulation, as I already stated

He met with China's president this week. And backed off on labeling China a currency manipulator this week. What a coincidence. I'm assuming that he's using the negotiation tactic of giving the adversary something relatively unimportant to soften them up and get something big in return. He promised a lot of things regarding China and hitting them with a worthless label was about the most unimportant one.
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Obamacare

We're 90 days into the presidency, and Ryan's plan fricking sucked. Not sure how you can include this as a failed campaign promise at this point.
quote:

Tax reform

Again, we're 90 days in. Not sure how any rational person can include this as a failure or flip flop.
quote:

Immigration ban from "terror-prone" regions without having the balls to touch Saudi, Egypt, or Pakistan

So he delivered on this one, but not enough? Got it. The metric that he used to pick which countries to ban was explained at some point and seemed pretty rational to me. Not to mention the fact that it was put into place to give us time to update our awful vetting process. Again, not sure how you can call this a failure to deliver.

Seems like you're just looking for things to bitch about at this point. I'm not 100% happy with the Trump presidency, specifically his buddying up to neocon superjew Kushner but regardless, there are pretty much zero campaign promises that he made that are unattainable at this point.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84784 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 12:00 am to
quote:

there are pretty much zero campaign promises that he made that are unattainable at this point.


I can agree here - they're not off the shelf for good - but the timeline on the most important ones (healthcare and tax reform) are disappointing at best considering his first 100 days promise.

Regardless, I don't want to be a buzzkill about this stuff. Carry on.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 12:26 am to
quote:

The more time he's had, the farther he's straying from his campaign promises. I'm not sure how that is even debatable


Please turn in your jacket and join the pussies where you belong. Thank you for playing and have a great day.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21408 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:20 am to
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42573 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 5:19 am to
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Hildabeast would've finished the job that Obama started. The result of 11/8 (actually 11/9 when the election was called) was absolutely essential for America.

Gorsuch is YUUUGE.

But, we've also had a substantial reduction in illegal immigration (pre-wall), TPP is DOA, business investment is way up (pre-tax reform), respect for law & order is no longer a 4-letter word, and the rest of the world once again respects America.

Pretty. Good. Start.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42573 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 5:20 am to
quote:

John Podesta is not SecState

And Loretta Lynch is not AG, nor on the list for SCOTUS
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38262 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 5:27 am to
It's absolutely hysterical watching the dims try to pit Trump's failures with legislative and "from the bench" politics.

His SCOTUS pick, the decline in illegal immigration, jobs, an excited market, and the recent show of military dominance, new relations with China; and no longer having to break serve with the "muh Russians" on a daily basis since the Obama admin fiasco; I'd say, with everything he's been up against; the first 100 days have been strong.

The snowflake riots are even calming the down...

As is our state of the union.

MAGA
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 6:23 am to
quote:

Hillary Clinton is not President & Gorsuch is on the Supreme Court
The rest is icing on the cake.
Careful, the Trumpophants might ask for their coat back.
Posted by GFaceKillah
Welcome to the Third World
Member since Nov 2005
5935 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 6:30 am to
Move those goalposts!
Posted by Sody Cracker
Distemper Ward
Member since May 2016
3409 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 6:38 am to
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slackster


I understand and share your frustration. Trump is making great strides in developing a relationship with China never seen before and that is so important considering the issues involving Russia and North Korea. Perhaps backing off a bit will lead to long term positive results.
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