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re: Here is the reality on the ground in Ukraine. FJB

Posted on 2/25/24 at 10:53 am to
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68941 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 10:53 am to
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If some of you honestlypay attention to the media lately, it’s been reported that the situation is dire in Ukraine, reported on NBC, msnbc and cnn. But you Russian cheerleaders can have your moment for now. Ukraine will never totally surrender, even if it turns to geurilla warfare.



Yay death and destruction.


You people really are in a death cult.





This post was edited on 2/25/24 at 10:54 am
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68941 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 10:56 am to
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We care because a Putin victory is contrary to America’s security interest, politically and economically.


Yeah if you want to protect corrupt politicians and their offspring.


Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8092 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 10:57 am to
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Ukraine was supposed to be a neutral state.


They're an independent state, they can join the EU if they choose.

Reminder: they asked for EU membership long before they asked for NATO membership.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124190 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 10:59 am to
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If some of you honestly pay attention to the media lately,
You're kidding. I'd just as soon attend a drag queen story hour.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19412 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 11:07 am to
Washington before the neocons was such a different place.

The problem with people like Nuland, is that she’s, yes, viscous and cunning, but she’s also surprisingly stupid and she can’t see past her own nose. And when Washington is dominated by people like her, which it is, you get violence and chaos, and chronically bad decision making which damages both the world and the United States. She fostering war globally, which is bad for us, and making us poorer and weaker. It’s shockingly, not going the way she thought it would. Quelle surprise.

Once upon a time, you had an intelligent and well educated class of people in DC which understood how foreign people thought, how they lived, and how they saw the world beyond their own borders. McGovern is a good example of what those people were like. And Johnson, he’s younger, is really the last gasp it.

The Bush I team would never have gotten us into a war in Ukraine, because they wouldn’t want to risks a nuclear with Russia, that ends the world, because they wouldn’t have seen a point in fighting a war in Ukraine, why are we wasting our money on this, but also because they could count, Russia had an insurmountable advantage in resources. They weren't going to start a war we couldn't win.
This post was edited on 2/25/24 at 11:48 am
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19412 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 11:10 am to
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They're an independent state, they can join the EU if they choose.

Reminder: they asked for EU membership long before they asked for NATO membership.


The Russians have decided that NATO membership is not an option.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16777 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 11:13 am to
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In every village and town, the streets, shops, and restaurants are mostly absent of men.


Sounds like a target rich environment. Ukraine has some hotties for sure.
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8421 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 11:26 am to
Ultimately the fate of the Ukranian people (what's left of them), and the whole world , rest with Vlad Putin and Joe Biden. Both are morally bankrupt individuals. Given the advancements in weaponry, I don't see an end to the carnage. A soldier sits behind a console miles and miles from the trenches (in some cases on another continent) and pushes a button that launches rockets. A war without faces.

I knew when Boris Johnson showed up at the peace negoiations (representing Corrupt Joe Biden et al) and stopped everything, I knew this war would not turn out well for Ukraine. I'll say it - the window to prevent nuclear war is closing rapidly, IMO. God help us.

So how do we stop this seemingly unending nightmare? I would suggest the only chance of ending this brutal dangerous war rest with this man.......

Trump 2024 - He Delivered On Peace.
This post was edited on 2/25/24 at 1:22 pm
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15852 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 11:34 am to
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The Russians could take Kiev tomorrow.


They already tried. Failed terribly.

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And, they are concerned that overruning all of Ukraine will prompt a western false flag, possibly nuclear.


Oh brother.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
10418 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 11:44 am to
Sounds like a bachelor haven. Even soy bois could scare up some cat
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19412 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 11:49 am to
If the Russians want Kiev, they will have it before this is over. It's just a question of time. Medvedev has spoken on a number of occasions over the past six months about Odessa and Kiev, so I assume that's where there border will be.
This post was edited on 2/25/24 at 11:50 am
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
32024 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 11:51 am to
Oh yes. Catturd and Maria whatever are the experts and arbiters of truth
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27704 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 12:11 pm to
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Make no mistake, they are angry with Putin. But they are also angry with Zelensky and the West


He was smart to cancel the elections.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27704 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 12:14 pm to
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So another $75-100 billion of our money is needed to turn it around or what? How much money is enough for idiots such as yourself?



whatever
it
takes
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8191 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 12:16 pm to
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By their estimates, they have lost over one million of their sons, fathers and husbands; an entire generation is gone.


No serious people believe either side has lost a million people
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
13013 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 12:16 pm to
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once Ukrainians forces are exhausted, American soldiers will come in to replace them and “win the war”.


statist4ever, LowTboy and BayouPutz are jerking each other off to the thought of this happening
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
13013 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 12:18 pm to
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America’s security interest


That’s rich coming from someone who supports the open borders crowd
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
7958 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 12:20 pm to
My preacher went to Ukraine as part of a mission trip to Eastern Europe back i the fall he reported the exact same thing, traveling mostly to the north western area of Ukraine. no men In the streets or stores, restaurants or churches and the men who haven’t been forced to fight hide in cellars and bunkers so the military doesn’t find them, It’s so sad.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
13013 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 12:22 pm to
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Ukraine will never totally surrender, even if it turns to geurilla warfare.


Who are going to be the guerrilla fighters? They’re running out of bodies and the bodies they do have left don’t have the will to fight.

Ukraine isn’t the Middle East, they don’t have millions of young men indoctrinated into a violent religion from birth who’ll blow themselves up in the name of Islam.
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7058 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 12:27 pm to
Well that settles that, random accounting must be true compared to other random accounting. 1 mil dead over 2 yrs huh?

Hint, There is no truths out there, everyone has an agenda, in this day in age, you need to listen to 10 people who all have different agendas and converge on the truth through first principles and intelligence.
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