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re: Heart Surgeon declares "we were wrong" re causes of heart disease

Posted on 1/26/14 at 10:24 pm to
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 10:24 pm to
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we have been lied to by the government and academics
You don't say.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35661 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 10:25 pm to
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Maybe it time we realize the "government" has no experts......only an agenda.
You don't say.
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7278 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 10:34 pm to
This is what my cholesterol specialist told me last week... basically it's the carbs that hurt your heart health.
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 11:33 pm to
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Inflammation
I read something that claims Diabetes is nothing more than inflammation, too.
I just recently was diagnosed as Type 2 and have lost 22lbs and my A1c gone from 11.9 to 5.5, by eating better, giving up the sodas and taking Metfornin, which I hope to be rid of soon. I'm interested in learning more about the inflammation aspect though.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124175 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 11:54 pm to
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I read something that claims Diabetes is nothing more than inflammation, too.
That would be a negative Cinci. Different issue. Blood sugar will go up in cases of infection though.

OTOH, weight loss w/ Type 2 DM is very helpful, as you've discovered. Congrats on dropping the 22#'s
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 7:32 am to
Thanks for this thread. I've got some reading and thinking to do.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63651 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 7:34 am to
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Thanks for this thread. I've got some reading and thinking to do.


Every case is different, and I still believe the overwhelming majority of people would do well to listen to the advice of their personal physician.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 7:37 am to
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I still believe the overwhelming majority of people would do well to listen to the advice of their personal physician.


I think most will listen to their physician if he advises them to cut back on frosted flake cereal and replace with ham and eggs.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63651 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 7:38 am to
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ham and eggs.


quite likely better for you than

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frosted flake cereal
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 9:23 am to
My stance on dieting is if I eat a lot of fruit and vegetables, and a fair amount of lean protein...anything else I eat is relatively immaterial assuming I stay within daily caloric goals.
Posted by StreamsOfWhiskey
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Jun 2013
586 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:16 am to
I'm on a high fat/high protein diet and have been for the last 8 years. I have Type 1 diabetes and I use this diet, in conjunction with insulin, to control my diabetes.

After 8 year of eating this way, my blood is clean. My cholesterol is low, my HDL is high, my triglycerides are low, as is my A1C.

Many people have been duped by the government's recommended diet.
Posted by A2
NoVa
Member since Nov 2012
1425 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 11:12 am to
As someone mentioned I seriously recommend "Grain Brain" as a reading and reference material.

The author, Dr. Perlmutter (who is a well-known Neurologist), not only talks about the physical health issues of a high carbohydrate, low fat diet, but also its neurological effects as we get older.

It seems like a lot of extensive research is showing that horrible diseases such as Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, ALS, and many others, are linked to the diets we consider healthy right now.

He is also huge about getting off gluten.

I decided to go full force into eating high fat, low carbs, with no gluten to start off the New Year.

I have always worked out regularly, but as I have aged (I am 42), my body type has changed (fat around the middle particularly). When I started this way of eating I weighed 226 (I am 6'2').

Since I decided that I will eat this way and started to on 1/2/14, I have lost 14 lbs. But more importantly my mental acuity and my physical energy has changed, and my body shape has changed. I am becoming very lean, and I am four pack away from my six pack.

I cannot recommend enough how reading this book can be beneficial. If you decide you cannot cut certain things out of your lifestyle, at least by adhering to some of the tenets, it might make a positive difference in your life.

And no matter what, get off of gluten!

Here's a link to his website:

Dr. Perlmutter
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
8973 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:29 pm to
Might give some perspective into the author..

Quackwatch.com
Posted by StreamsOfWhiskey
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Jun 2013
586 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:41 pm to
Thanks for the post. I'd also recommend Dr. Richard Bernstein's "Diabetes Solution." You don't have to be Diabetic to benefit from reading. You'll walk away with a new understanding of nutrition that contradicts all of the "conventional wisdom" spewed daily on the news.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:51 pm to
It's crazy to think they peddled this stuff.



You'd be a fatass, and a sad one at that.
Posted by A2
NoVa
Member since Nov 2012
1425 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 12:55 pm to
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Thanks for the post. I'd also recommend Dr. Richard Bernstein's "Diabetes Solution." You don't have to be Diabetic to benefit from reading. You'll walk away with a new understanding of nutrition that contradicts all of the "conventional wisdom" spewed daily on the news.


I will check it out for sure.

"Grain Brain" also speaks extensively about Diabetes and diet. In fact, I think Bernstein is referenced quite a few times.

The thing about Perlmutter is he cites hundreds of recent studies (last 20 years primarily) that reinforce his position.

A thoroughly researched book.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73548 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:05 pm to
As a distance runner, I used to ascribe to the typical high-carb, low-fat diet most agreed was the best and healthiest for many years. I now go more more of a balance and don't worry as much about saturated fats as I once did. I recently heard a great interview with doctor Tim Noakes (author of "The Lore or Running" and other books) on the Marathon Training Academy podcast discussing his change of heart (no pun intended) on the matter. He cites a number of recent studies and talks about the history of carb bias in this country, including the food pyramid and government policy. Interesting stuff.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73548 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:09 pm to
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You'd be a fatass, and a sad one at that.


Not necessarily. That would still depend on your total caloric intake and physical activity.
Posted by A2
NoVa
Member since Nov 2012
1425 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:16 pm to
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You'd be a fatass, and a sad one at that. Not necessarily. That would still depend on your total caloric intake and physical activity.


Yeah, but your brain could be a "fatass" based on the neurological effects of a high carb, low fat diet.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:27 pm to
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Not necessarily. That would still depend on your total caloric intake and physical activity.



I'm pretty active, and if I had just 6 servings of bread/pasta/grains in a day, I'd feel terrible.
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