- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Healthcare premiums show sharpest increases perhaps ever, since Obamacare
Posted on 4/8/14 at 10:57 am to Lsupimp
Posted on 4/8/14 at 10:57 am to Lsupimp
quote:
fricking idiots will be back here in two years saying..."it's because it didn't go far enough...company x, y, and z, are simply greedy . .. it would have worked if people that could pay more just paid more . . . war on women . . ."
FIFY
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:03 am to Antonio Moss
I accept the superiority of your fix.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:05 am to Lsupimp
If we could just get everyone to accept that healthcare is a commodity, we would project the discussion of healthcare in this country by leaps and bounds.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:06 am to MJM
quote:
Did you purchase through the exchange?
No that's just staying with Humana.
To get any real "coverage improvement"(yeah...right) through the exchange , like say a "gold plan" I'd need to pony up north of $1250 a month. An $800 a month increase to get any demonstrable improvement in benefits....
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:17 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
quote:
My employer is a British firm who can't believe the gov. doesn't provide health care insurance and refuses to help us
Most brits are dumb arses who think their healthcare is world class and free. Their government has had 65 years to get it "right" and yet...
quote:
Access to medical care is so poor in the NHS that the government was compelled to issue England’s 2010 “NHS Constitution” in which it was declared that no patient should wait beyond 18 weeks for treatment – four months – after GP referral. Defined as acceptable by bureaucrats who set them, such targets propagate the illusion of meeting quality standards despite seriously endangering their citizens, all of whom share an equally poor access to health care. Even given this extraordinarily long leash, the number of patients not being treated within that time soared by 43% to almost 30,000 last January. BBC subsequently discovered that many patients initially assessed as needing surgery were later re-categorized by the hospital so that they could be removed from waiting lists to distort the already unconscionable delays.
quote:
Reality also prevents accepting the fantasy that the NHS-style socialized medicine as initiated in 1948 has actually lived up to the so-called “core value” of British society. For if true, it must seem odd that people of means in Britain consistently look elsewhere for medical care. About six million Brits now buy private health insurance, including almost two-thirds of Brits earning more than $78,700. According to The Telegraph, the number of people paying for their own private care is up 20 percent year-to-year, with about 250,000 now choosing to pay for private treatment out-of-pocket each year. And does anyone wonder why Prince Philip recently chose to receive his medical care in the private London Clinic? Is it a mystery why Prince William and Kate Middleton have chosen to deliver their royal baby and receive birth care at the private St. Mary’s Hospital? Isn’t it notable that more than 50,000 Britons travel out of the country per year and spend £161 million to receive medical care due to lack of access, even though they are hemorrhaging money for their national pride? When given the choice, Brits shun the NHS, and rightfully so.
LINK
Posted on 4/8/14 at 10:29 pm to Lsupimp
Has the deadline for group plans been delayed like everything else seems to have been?
I thought it was Jan of next year.
I thought it was Jan of next year.
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 4/8/14 at 10:43 pm to Alahunter
Unless they change the penalty enforcement scheme, there is very little reason for a great number of people to sign up. I never will. Ever.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 10:46 pm to Green Chili Tiger
quote:
Yes really. The insurance offered by my employer already meets all the coverage requirements and it is offered to 100% of the employees. The employer mandate will have zero effect on my coverage.
Just wait. Ours only went up 10% but we had to increase copays and the deductibles or it would've been 25%. We can't do that again or we'll no longer be grandfathered in. We'll just have to pay the MUCH higher rates (they're guessing 50%) next year or drop it. How is that better? I would imagine your company has done the same.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 10:56 pm to Green Chili Tiger
quote:
I'm not "pawning off responsibility" on anyone. I've just been seeing these horror stories for 3 or 4 years now and myself and none of the people I know have run in to it personally. I find it odd. Then, when I post as much, everyone's answer is always "Just wait until XYZ happens" "Then you'll see!" but it keeps not happening. If we have to wait for the employer mandate to start before we see this, then where are all these stories coming from?
I see it everyday in my practice. People ARE paying more for less. I don't give a shite what your experience is. Mine is far more reliable. I can count on two hands the number of my patients that have benefitted (none of which are employed btw), but I cannot tell you how many have been impacted negatively by it with higher premiums, copays, and deductibles. And this is just the start. Once the actuaries figure the true cost of these high cost pt's being added the rates will have to skyrocket. To argue it won't shows a complete ignorance of the facts.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:07 pm to SmackoverHawg
And all this is with rates being kept artificially low as the gov't has promised insurances they will cover any loses (with interest) just to get people signed up. So this "free" coverage will disappear like a fart in the wind once the insurances companies are on the hook. And premiums will skyrocket unless true penalties are in place to force everyone to buy in. Obama's average savings of $2500/household greatly overestimated the young and healthy and greatlty underestimated the sick and debilitated that would jump on it. I personally know of five people that quit work to get free Obamacare to pay of necessary healthcare. They had it, but once they figure in free care, food stamps, etc. They were better off quitting. These five have accumulated in excess of $400,000 in healthcare cost since the beginning of this year. Total out of pocket for them? $0.00. Number of young healthy "invincibles" I have seen sign up? mf'ing ZERO. Hell these people didn't get it when it was cheaper and better. Why the frick would they buy it now. GD liberals have to be the dumbest mf'ers alive. Pie in the sky hypothetical bullshite does not equal real world realities and we told yall. Yet you still defend this shite storm. Your dumbassery is astounding and you continue to take it to levels a sane person cannot comprehend.
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News