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re: Health insurance rates set to soar for some in Louisiana

Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:43 pm to
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7129 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:43 pm to
Why?

- people are not forced to purchase HI anymore. Health people exit leaving leaving a pool of insured with much higher risk factors

- end of government subsidies which was an artificial price control.

Stupid Demos in Congress should have read the bill before passing it to understand all the risk.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118711 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 5:00 pm to
quote:

Health insurance rates set to soar for some in Louisiana


This really sucks.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21857 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 5:01 pm to
Thanks Obama
Posted by burdhead
WOMP WOMP!!
Member since Apr 2017
6008 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 5:04 pm to
i pay $1007 dollars a month for health insurance and you think i give a damn about how much you government owned inbreds in louisianna pay?
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

With the outcome of those efforts in Congress uncertain and delayed up to two weeks, insurers are factoring in proposed changes that they say are inflating what would be single-digit premium increases into double-digits for 2018.


quote:

"Keep in mind these numbers are preliminary based on what the new health care law is going to look like. Had it not been for not enforcing the mandate or the possibility of cost-share reductions not being paid by the government, we would have seen normal trends of 7 percent to 10 percent increases," Justice said. "However we have had to prepare ourselves for the uncertainty in the market."


This article is not making the case many think it is making.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21875 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 5:15 pm to
quote:

Why do I have to be punished for being healthy?


Because tomorrow, you may not be healthy.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21875 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 5:15 pm to
quote:

A law that requires bailout money to keep rates down


It's not bailout money.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47510 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 5:17 pm to
quote:

Why do I have to be punished for being healthy?
you call it punishment, but its more like an investment in our society
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
7156 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 5:17 pm to
quote:

insurers are factoring in proposed changes that they say are inflating what would be single-digit premium increases into double-digits for 2018.


Dem-progs yesterday: "insurance companies just used the ACA as an excuse to jack up premiums! Don't blame the ACA for greedy insurance companies!!!!"

Dem-progs today: "it's all Trump's fault that rates are going up!"

Lulz
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
7156 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 5:18 pm to
quote:

you call it punishment, but its more like an investment in our society



Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21875 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 5:18 pm to
quote:

Allowing high risk users to game the system doesn't lower costs.


Staying alive isn't gaming the system.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105399 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 5:24 pm to
quote:

quote:
Why do I have to be punished for being healthy?


Because tomorrow, you may not be healthy.


You should go spend 2 years in prison because tomorrow you could be a criminal.

Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 5:24 pm to
Exorbitant End of life care at taxpayer expense is gaming the system.

Type 2 diabetes and AiDS and expecting full healthcare at others' expense, is gaming the system.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21875 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 5:25 pm to
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You should go spend 2 years in prison because tomorrow you could be a criminal.



I pay for police and fire departments, but I've never had my house broken into, nor has it burned to the ground.

Why am I paying for those things that I never use?

Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21875 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 5:27 pm to
quote:

Exorbitant End of life care at taxpayer expense is gaming the system.



I agree - we tried to address that, but one party decided shouting 'death panels' was a winning strategy.

quote:

Type 2 diabetes and AiDS and expecting full healthcare at others' expense, is gaming the system.


Can you please provide a full list of diseases that you believe those suffering from do not deserve adequate health care unless they are rich?

I'll start for you:

Type-2 diabetes
HIV
...
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 5:27 pm to
quote:

you call it punishment, but its more like an investment in our society

Preventive care for an American diverse populace has been academically proven to be more costly than treating it as it pops up.

Hussein lied and you got suckered.
This post was edited on 7/17/17 at 5:28 pm
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

I agree - we tried to address that, but one party decided shouting 'death panels' was a winning strategy.

You left out the part about government expense and control.

No disease deserves treatment at taxpayer expense. Your list will be easier that way.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21875 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 5:30 pm to
quote:

Preventive care for an American diverse populace has been academically proven to be more costly than treating it as it pops up.


Link?

And costly how? What about other outcomes - quality of life, life expectancy, etc? What's the specific hazard ratio of preventative care vs 'treating it as it pops up'?
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 5:30 pm to
quote:

You left out the part about government expense and control.

No disease deserves treatment at taxpayer expense. Your list will be easier that way.




How do you have your insurance?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21875 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 5:30 pm to
quote:

No disease deserves treatment at taxpayer expense.


There are a number of third-world countries you can move to that will fulfill this insane dream for you.

Thankfully, the USA is better than that.
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