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re: Hawks co owner email

Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:07 am to
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:07 am to
If the Hawks fetch $600m+, I wonder what other owners are going to come out and say "I'm racist, too!"
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 12:08 am
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
65876 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:10 am to
It just looks like something you'd see in every damn company across America when talking key demos and branding.

He must have some motive behind the self report. I mean wtf.

What I gather is he wants to attract the more affluent, key demo, that the other teams have but he has to fight the battle of a poor, incorrect perception that unfairly permeated his white fan base.
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 12:14 am
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:13 am to
quote:

LSUTiger10387
dude your personal observations of black people are really something you should keep to yourself.

I bet you think you're objective about it.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:14 am to
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The point of the issue flows over your racist head to begin with.
no, the point is that millionaires don't need you to be mad for them.

OMG OPPRESSED MILLIONAIRES!!! THE WORLD IS ENDING!!!
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:15 am to
quote:

It just looks like something you'd see in every damn company across America when talking key demos and branding.


Exactly

quote:

He must have some motive behind the self report. I mean wtf.



Also true. The issue is the 'insensitive' and 'racist' narrative the MSM is rolling with.
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:16 am to
quote:

no, the point is that millionaires don't need you to be mad for them.

OMG OPPRESSED MILLIONAIRES!!! THE WORLD IS ENDING!!!



No, again, the issue flows over the head of a racist such as yourself.
Posted by WalkingTurtles
Alexandria
Member since Jan 2013
5913 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:17 am to
I gave you my honest perception, key word being "perception" of my observations of blacks involving their ability to sustain an organization as the primary demographic base.

If it offends you for whatever reason then oh well. You can get over it just like I can get over whatever assumption about me you make.

Have a great day.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:22 am to
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the issue flows over the head of a racist such as yourself.
you can frame the issue to yourself however you want. That doesn't mean everyone has to accept your narrative.

Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:24 am to
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That doesn't mean everyone has to accept your narrative.



The narrative is your ignorance. You show it daily.
Posted by ynlvr
Rocket City
Member since Feb 2009
4583 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 2:15 am to
quote:

I think he'll be fine


And you think that makes it right? To vilify and disparage rich people for presenting a professional analysis if that analysis doesn't fit the current PC protocol? Because he will survive it.

What about the rest of us in the middle of the socio-economic ladder? Do the same rules apply? Or which ones should apply to which class? And who determines this?

Wrong is wrong.

But in the end his analysis was probably pretty spot on and likely made him and the organization stronger and likely richer because of his observations. Reality. The protected ones will never rise as long as they are protected from growth and achievement.
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12167 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 5:50 am to
They asked on sports center how much the Hawks were worth.
The NBA analyst said not as much as the Clippers because everything in the e-mail was true. The analyst was black so I guess he won't get fired.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73143 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 5:53 am to
if this email is going to cause a scandal then thousands of CEOs, managers, etc are going to be in BIG trouble


We are never going to be able to "move on" if people can't speak candidly(to an extent) about race. Ignoring it does NOTHING
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33912 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 6:36 am to
This is a simple email about economics and demographics.
Posted by mikelowery1911
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
896 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 7:02 am to
quote:

This is a simple email about economics and demographics.



I agree he is actually complimentary of his black fans and workers. I disagree with his conclusion. I the problem has more to do with socioeconomics than culture and the fact that Altalnta is a destination city. A good bit of the affluent citizens of all races are are not from there and will not support the team through thick and thin. Miami has this problem as well. LSU also has this problem. Not because of Baton Rouge being a destination city but because of ticket prices. As the tickets get more expensive you price out the fans who stick with a team thick and thin and who arrive early and stay late.

It is my understanding the Clippers and Wizards(two teams with large minority fanbases) do not have this problem. They have focused on growing the fan base and creating a fan culture.
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 7:04 am
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 7:23 am to
quote:

Th email got me angry for different reasons. Dude is a part owner of a multi million dollar company... yet he is basing all of his business decisions off of a personal visit from a specific perspective of a few games.


Good god you're a fricking idiot
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422311 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 7:30 am to
he got :sterling'd:
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31635 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 7:40 am to
This thing is weird. This is manufactured somehow, right?
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31635 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 7:41 am to
quote:

Good god you're a fricking idiot
m
I agree. You can think he is a stupid business man , but why would that make you angry?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40124 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 7:50 am to
so apparently racist statement=sell team for a billion dollars
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30548 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 7:53 am to
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Dude is the owner of a million dollar company. He is trying to get ideas on how to improve sales. There is nothing wrong in that email at all


He clearly wanted out. There is nothing to see here
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