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Have we engaged in acts of war against Syria?
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:24 am
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:24 am
Would you say the bombing of the airfield and this most recent action were acts of war?
Do they fall under the authority to fight ISIS or is it something different?
Do you think Congress is willing to take up the argument and either condemn or authorize further actions, or simply step to the side and let the executive and pentagon do what it will?
Do they fall under the authority to fight ISIS or is it something different?
Do you think Congress is willing to take up the argument and either condemn or authorize further actions, or simply step to the side and let the executive and pentagon do what it will?
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 11:26 am
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:25 am to fouldeliverer
Probably have for several years now.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:26 am to fouldeliverer
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Have we engaged in acts of war against Syria?
Technically speaking, probably. We do have a duty under the UN to stop mass murder/genocide tho.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:26 am to fouldeliverer
Haven't we been blowning shite up inside of their boarders for a while now?
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:26 am to fouldeliverer
'Collective Self Defense"
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:27 am to fouldeliverer
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Do you think Congress is willing to take up the argument and either condemn or authorize further actions, or simply step to the side and let the executive and pentagon do what it will?
I expect Congress to remain spineless pussies who are more worried about getting reelected than they are about the welfare of the country.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:27 am to fouldeliverer
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Have we engaged in acts of war against Syria? by fouldeliverer
Yes we have. The debate is whether those acts are authorize under international law and the UN
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:27 am to fouldeliverer
frick yes. We've been bombing inside their territorial boundaries for the last 3 years.
Only reason it hasn't made news is because they're up to their ears in a rebellion and then ISIS.
Boundaries mean shite. Imagine another country was bombing California since 2014 while the capitol is in Washington and we haven't done anything about it. That's Syria.
Not saying I disagree with it. But yes, we have most definitely engaged in war against them in the classic sense of invading sovereign territory.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 11:30 am
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:29 am to fouldeliverer
We haven't declared war since 1942. We have engaged in many acts of war since then. For the last 75 years, congress has sat by while the president does what they want with the military.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:30 am to fouldeliverer
Congress agreed with the airfield.
Syrians attached forces we were supporting. If the truth gets out there were likely Americans embedded with these troops as advisors. So we were probably sending the message not to bomb troops we support in an effort to also protect American boots on the ground.
Syrians attached forces we were supporting. If the truth gets out there were likely Americans embedded with these troops as advisors. So we were probably sending the message not to bomb troops we support in an effort to also protect American boots on the ground.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:36 am to fouldeliverer
quote:It's been in the planning since before 9/11.
Have we engaged in acts of war against Syria?
quote:If another country came over here and bombed a U.S. airfield would you consider it an act of war?
Would you say the bombing of the airfield and this most recent action were acts of war?
quote:We have been looking for a reason to go into Syria for regime change for a long time. ISIS is our boogeyman.
Do they fall under the authority to fight ISIS or is it something different?
quote:We must appear to remain the "good guys" while we execute regime change in the area. So, no, Congress will do nothing to interfere.
Do you think Congress is willing to take up the argument and either condemn or authorize further actions, or simply step to the side and let the executive and pentagon do what it will?
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:39 am to Wtodd
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We do have a duty under the UN to stop mass murder/genocide tho.
Sorry, but after murdering and/or displacing millions in the Middle East invasion over the last 16 years, that's about the most ironic statement I've seen today.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:42 am to TX Tiger
I never said we executed the UN Charter effectively OR fairly, just that we have a duty to stop murder/genocide.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:43 am to fouldeliverer
The engagement of a Syrian Air Force Su-22 over Syrian airspace? I'm not well versed in International Law, but common sense says yes.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:51 am to fouldeliverer
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Would you say the bombing of the airfield and this most recent action were acts of war?
We have committed acts of war against most of the nations on earth.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:52 am to Wtodd
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I never said we executed the UN Charter effectively OR fairly, just that we have a duty to stop murder/genocide.
Sure we do.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:56 am to Wtodd
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we have a duty to stop murder.
Maybe we should start with our own government.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 12:17 pm to AggieDub14
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For the last 75 years, congress has sat by while the president does what they want with the military.
Which has subsequently led to the growth of the deep state and MIC beyond control.
Congress failed in its duties to maintain checks and balances
Posted on 6/19/17 at 12:56 pm to Wtodd
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We do have a duty under the UN to stop mass murder/genocide tho.
And nothing helps stop mass murder like helping ISIS!
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