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re: Has there ever been a president that has lacked personal responsibility like Trump?

Posted on 8/17/23 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112714 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 1:38 pm to
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So, you're ok with a grown arse man blaming all of HIS decisions on someone else?


You can't read. Bye.
Posted by WaltWhite504
Member since Sep 2021
1409 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 1:40 pm to
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I'm not aware of any decisions that were made on behalf of the Executive, while he was President, that Trump has ever tried to disavow.


Trump said Mexico would pay for wall - then said he didn't mean it literally.

LINK
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20537 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 1:44 pm to
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When individuals fail to meet expected standards, they do not look around for some factor outside themselves to blame.


That has been pretty much every single politician, including Presidents of the United States, since at least Herbert Hoover.
Posted by roux
Tiger Territory
Member since Dec 2006
1597 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 1:46 pm to
Clinton and Obama
Posted by Texdelmag
Delaware
Member since Aug 2020
852 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 1:46 pm to
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Sorry, I have standards.


You kind of don’t though.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
37422 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 1:51 pm to
Ok, you probably got me on that one.

That said, I have enough to know that Trump doesn't deserve my respect or blind loyalty.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7644 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 1:53 pm to
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Has there ever been a president that has lacked personal responsibility like Trump?


Yes, Obama by a lot.
Posted by MAADFACTS
Member since Jul 2021
1280 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 2:01 pm to
There have been several presidents that have lacked the ability to take personal responsibility. I’d say there’s been more of them than there have been President’s who did take full personal responsibility for their actions. What most previous presidents have been able to done, at least in recent memory, I’d say the right things to bring the temperature down. They usually let their surrogates mix things up, and they try and stay above the fray. A big exception to this would be Obama in his second term, but I think at that point he had been made a lame duck and was just trying to use the bully pulpit badly.

What Trump does that is unique in living memory, is respond immediately and emotionally to any and all accusations. It’s one of his political strengths. Whatever else you can say of him, you know how he feels about other people. He genuinely hates everyone who says anything diminishing about him. It doesn’t matter if they are a democrat, a Republican or had an unblemished record of loyalty a week ago. In some ways it’s extremely refreshing. Sometimes he looks like a petulant child. It also somewhat depends on how you think of him. If you love him or hate the people he’s going after, he’s great. If he turns around and starts screaming at someone you like or if you think he’s just ok, it can get tiring fast. But no matter what, it’s honest in a way few pols are
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 2:05 pm to
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saint tiger225

invalid question.

let's ask one more to the situation

Is this the worst political persecution in the history of western civilization?
Posted by MAADFACTS
Member since Jul 2021
1280 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 2:08 pm to
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Is this the worst political persecution in the history of western civilization?


No? That’s not the standard we use when judging if it’s bad or not though. Like Thomas More probably faced a worse political persecution, but what’s happening to Trump is still awful
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 2:09 pm to
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Cult45 melting ITT.

Not a surprise.
completely tone deaf

I believe you meant to say that you do not have any idea of just how evil the third world political persecution is; and that is happening in your own country by an occupying usurper government that has the USA in shambles makes no difference to you because you suffer from debilitating mental illness.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 2:14 pm to
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That’s not the standard we use when judging if it’s bad or not
I am not requiring any answers; the mentally ill that support the occupying force in this country and then come here to make posts like this looney bird has are to be scrutinized for such insane posts.

Discussion of Trump in 2020 through today is invalid if it doesn't add details of the political persecution every former generation of Americans would never think happening.

Of course none of them were in a country run by a presidency of enemies, Larry Fink of Blackrock, and George 'nazi collaborator' Soros, running a stage full of stooges and minor Khazarian Mafia puppets.
This post was edited on 8/17/23 at 2:19 pm
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20286 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 2:18 pm to
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Has there ever been a president that has lacked personal responsibility like Trump?


quote:

Cult45 melting ITT.



quote:

Not a surprise.



Wow...set up an inflammatory post, get Trump supporters pissed as intended, then call it an unsurprising melt. shite! You're so clever!
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
37422 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 2:21 pm to
Dude, what in the frick are you talking about? Goodness gracious son.
Posted by TigerFanDan
BFE
Member since Jul 2008
885 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 2:31 pm to
All Democrats
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
1922 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 2:33 pm to
LOL. Has there ever been a President attacked like Donald Trump? Hell no! Has there ever been a President investigated like Donald trump? Hell no! Personal responsibility?!! Schmuck!
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19759 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 2:33 pm to
I bet that dude has never said he’s sorry for anything in his entire life.

LMAO.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9953 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 2:36 pm to
Like every president ever, it is never their fault. It is just that Trump says it without all the political correctness you are used to, so it somehow offends you. I guess you would just rather be lied to in a nicer way.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
37422 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 2:36 pm to
Zero of what you mentioned has anything to do with him taking personal responsibility for the shitty hires he made.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74756 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 2:36 pm to
Its amazing that an ex addict complains about Trump so much
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