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re: Hagan a no-show at final debate?

Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:12 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:12 am to
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I've been wondering why the frick is NC so staunchly democrat?
NC has been a purple state for at least 40yrs.
Posted by TN_Tigers
West Tennessee
Member since Feb 2013
7193 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:25 am to
GOP leads returned ballots so far 41/37. Tomorrow starts in person early voting and favors the Dems historically. Almost 34% of returned ballots didn't vote in 2010.

2010- was GOP 43/36.

* Very small totals are in so far, I expect numbers to start climbing after in person voting.

This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 8:31 am
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:28 am to
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As I posted before you wrote this, she did not "skip out" on the debate because she turned down the invitation to participate back in July.


I appreciate the facts and rational perspective that you provide in these situations since most of us don't keep up the specifics of the individual races.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29032 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:39 am to
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massive influx of "refugees" from NY/NJ/PA/MI/OH which has shifted the state left


I'm told these folks are often known as "half-backs" ... went to FL ... then back up to NC ... but not all the way back north where they came from.


Asheville seems like a liberal freak-show. I talk to a lot of folks in communities surrounding Asheville .. and they want nothing to do with it.



Beautiful region, though ... especially this time of year.
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
14261 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 9:18 am to
Elizabeth Dole refused to do any debates with Hagan in the 2008 race. Dole lost. Let's hope that history repeats itself.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48328 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:39 am to
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I've been wondering why the frick is NC so staunchly democrat? I live in VA, and at least we can blame it on NOVA, Richmond and Hampton Roads



Lots of folks from the Northeast areas like New York state and New Jersey have moved to NC because of the high cost of living up North. These migrants are all Democrats and have increased the Democrat population in NC.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:50 am to
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New York state and New Jersey have moved to NC because of the high cost of living up North. These migrants are all Democrats and have increased the Democrat population in NC.


The irony
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79069 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:51 am to
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With Hagan absent and nothing but an empty chair to face her opponent, North Carolina House Speaker Thom Tillis spent an hour taking questions from two local reporters and voters.


That is great publicity for Tillis - kind of like a townhall forum. Is Tillis even a threat to Hagan (I'm not up to snuff with this particular race)
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26635 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:00 am to
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Asheville seems like a liberal freak-show. I talk to a lot of folks in communities surrounding Asheville .. and they want nothing to do with it.


Nailed it. Since I no longer work in Asheville and don't drink beer, there's really no reason for me to go to Asheville. Let the libs have it.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:32 am to
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Asheville seems like a liberal freak-show. I talk to a lot of folks in communities surrounding Asheville .. and they want nothing to do with it.


I've only ever heard great things about Asheville, from liberals and conservatives. Not to mention many of the communities surrounding Asheville (and Asheville as well) are suffering from generational poverty that is not uncommon in Appalachia. Their problems go well beyond Asheville. In fact, they would probably be worse off without the city. So I question the rationality of those individuals' perspective.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48328 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:44 pm to
Yes, they are bringing the loveliness that they have created in New York down to North Carolina!
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:19 pm to
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Is Tillis even a threat to Hagan (I'm not up to snuff with this particular race)


Latest RCP average has Hagan up by two points - 45.6%-43.6%. That totals 89.2% So does that mean that 10.8% are still undecided so close to the election? No, it doesn't. Libertarian Sean Haugh has come in with 7%, 6%, 5% and 6% in the last four major polls. Historically, on Election Day, Libertarian candidates score about half of the percentage they hold 30 days out. We are already seeing Libertarian Amanda Swafford's 6% shrink to 4% in Georgia.) As the election gets closer and a race is expected to be close, Libertarian supporters often adopt the "lesser-of-two-evils" practical mentality and cast ballots for one of the two major candidates. Thus one can expect Haugh to come in somewhere in the 3-4% range. Will Nunn or Perdue benefit most from the Haugh crossovers? No way to know.

The Swafford siuation in Georgia and the Haugh situation in NC are similar in terms of the Libertarian candidates polling about the same 15-30 days out, but there is one huge difference between the two situations. Libertarians in GA can vote for Swafford and still have a very good chance at making the lesser-of-two-evils decision on January 6th. Plurality wins in NC, so no mulligans available in that race.
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