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re: gruber-gowdy vid

Posted on 12/9/14 at 9:34 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 9:34 pm to
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That was damn strong and I think it got to the very heart of the philosophical drawbacks of liberalism. Kudos to Mr. Massie.



I enjoyed his point concerning the "right to self determination".
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 9:38 pm to
Gowdy's schtick is beyond old IMO.
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 9:49 pm to
I have a huge crush on Trey Gowdy. He is fantastic. Its nice to have a few guys like him (and Chaffetz,and Jordan) still trying to hold people accountable. Some of those asses have been there too long and have gotten too damned friendly with "consultants" just as slimy as Gruber.
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 9:52 pm to
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Gowdy's schtick is beyond old IMO.




Really?
I could watch this man ask questions all day
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 10:51 pm to
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I enjoyed his point concerning the "right to self determination".


And positive selection. Can't split hairs with that argument. You're either onboard or you're not.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:00 pm to
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Gowdy's schtick is beyond old IMO.


Never, the man runs circles around those he questions. I want moar
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:17 pm to
I love Gowdy but he let me down some today. The line he took worked and busted Gruber up but I was hoping Gowdy was going put heat on Gruber as to whether he coordinated with The White House and/or Congressional Dems to actively deceive with regards to ACA. Instead, he chose to humiliate Gruber. The humiliation was fun to watch, but I wanted Gowdy to go for the jugular on the bigger matters at hand.
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:43 pm to
Did Gruber spill the beans on anyone today? Kathy? Barry?
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:53 pm to
Meh, this was theater and won't amount to jack shite.

All this does is give Gruber a chance to alter the focus of his comments and change the script.

His original truths on video are more damning. He's not sorry for what he said, he's sorry he got caught saying what he said.

This post was edited on 12/9/14 at 11:55 pm
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:04 am to
Gruber is a bitch.


He is a liberal...that makes him a little bitch by definition.

He is a weak-arse, little punk bitch, just like all liberals.

They have no spine. No balls.


And that is why once the final straw breaks the camel's back ... such traitorous liberals will be easier to exterminate than cowardly Muslim terrorists.

It will be like stepping on cockroaches....except that, unfortunately, liberals and Muslim terrorists are a lot like cockroaches in that it is extremely difficult to wipe them all out.


Look how he folded like a little bitch ...didn't even have the balls to say, "yeah, I said it ... so what?"
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:39 am to
The part that makes me sick is that there are dozens if not hundreds of people like Gruber and Emmanuel that arrogantly snicker and pat each other on the back every day while leeching millions of dollars off taxpayers and all the while see us as just stupid suckers.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 12/10/14 at 5:37 am to
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The part that makes me sick is that there are dozens if not hundreds of people like Gruber and Emmanuel that arrogantly snicker and pat each other on the back every day while leeching millions of dollars off taxpayers and all the while see us as just stupid suckers.



Yep, and why all of Gruber's comments were from his heart, and so damn truthful. I think that's what was missed from the whole discussion on the "Grubercare".
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
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Posted on 12/10/14 at 6:00 am to
Did anyone ask Gruber if he met with Obama? Who did he meet with in the Administration?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 12/10/14 at 6:09 am to
I give it to Gruber for saying "I was trying to make myself sound smarter by insulting others"


Gowdy needs to get off his fricking high horse. EVERYONE knows the American public, in general, is fricking stupid... This is all for camera time. He should be more concerned and grilling how they manipulated the law.

Grandstanding by Gowdy, making him look as good as Issa
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 12/10/14 at 6:28 am to
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Kudos to Mr. Massie.


I enjoyed his point concerning the "right to self determination".



That was an excellent and Important point. Another way to veiw it is through the concept of informed consent.

This never happened with the ACA. The people never gave their informed consent. In fact that was impossible because no one was informed. Recall that they had to pass it to see what was in it. To this day, no one person knows all of the ACA. Parts of it of still being supplemented by new regulation.
This post was edited on 12/10/14 at 7:15 am
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/10/14 at 7:03 am to
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This one is really good from today...


Probably the best one of the day. Well spoken and not theatrical. Took a good poke at the liberal eugenics mindset.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10816 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 7:06 am to
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I think Gruber knew he had to come in and capitulate today. He really had no grounds to be combative.



It's really a shame. For once we heard the truth from one of these frickers. It's a shame it didnt last long.
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
4577 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 7:14 am to
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but I was hoping Gowdy was going put heat on Gruber as to whether he coordinated with The White House and/or Congressional Dems to actively deceive with regards to ACA.


Unless the witness is a John Dean type, there aren't going to be any Matlock moments in a Congressional hearing. I don't recall and what difference does it make. Gimme a few years and I'll find those Rose Firm billing records sitting on a coffee table in the East Wing.

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The humiliation was fun to watch,
Wasn't it? It's a common theme on TV every night where Mr Know-it-all finds his comeuppance. Humans love that sort of thing.
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
7156 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 7:15 am to
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This never happened with the ACA. The people never gave their informed consent. In fact that was impossible because no one was informed. Recall that they had to pass it to see what was in it. To this day, no one person knows all of the ACA. Parts of it of still being supplemented by new regulation. 



This. And,wow,how can any intellectually honest person think that's acceptable?
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
7156 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 7:21 am to
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Did anyone ask Gruber if he met with Obama? Who did he meet with in the Administration?




No, I believe it was stated that he had as evidence of his importance in developing the ACA. They should have just asked him and forced him to answer. It was either Gowdy or the person immediately before him.
I might have missed someone asking him early on though.
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