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re: Great video from former Chief Scientist at Pfizer explaining the vaccines

Posted on 5/24/21 at 11:00 pm to
Posted by Norbert
Member since Oct 2018
3192 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 11:00 pm to
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I worked in pharma


please elaborate on this. It’s very (intentionally) vague.

Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26800 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 11:06 pm to
quote:


please elaborate on this. It’s very (intentionally) vague


Just as vague as is all the "doctors" on this board who don't state their name or their board license.
Posted by Norbert
Member since Oct 2018
3192 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 11:33 pm to
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Just as vague as is all the "doctors" on this board who don't state their name or their board license


Weak rebuttal.

Working in pharma can mean anything from being a receptionist at Pfizer to a researcher.

Saying you’re an ER doc but leaving out your name and license number is obviously different.

Deeeeer
Posted by stickly
Asheville, NC
Member since Nov 2012
2338 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 5:41 am to
I was in management at a private equity firm that fully owned several pharma companies. We built and sold pharma companies around pharmaceuticals. We got in to early round investing (controlling interest) in promising candidates and took several of them public. The value of our portfolio of products, companies, and investments in pharma was north of $3B. The most promising drugs are still in the study phase.
Posted by shell01
Marianna, FL
Member since Jul 2014
793 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 6:16 am to
quote:

I was in management at a private equity firm that fully owned several pharma companies.


So you're in finance. Got it.

I am also "in pharma." I have spent 20+ years in clinical research, both at small biotechs, mid-sized pharma, and now at a leading contract research organization directly responsible for $200+MM in contracted phase II-III clinical trials including some COVID treatments. My company has >$1B in COVID trials in the last year. To say this stuff isn't tested or researched is silly... pharma companies aren't just paying us to post on TD ;)

The COVID treatment and vaccine research has been robust, but streamlined. It's amazing what we can do when everyone is truly focused on getting shite done and not haggling over contract language for 6 months, scrambling for funding, etc.
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
14875 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 6:21 am to
Jesus, vaccines don't provide immunity from viruses. They provide protection from viruses.

Live or inactivated vaccines aren't commonly used in the United States anymore because sometimes they don't weaken the virus or inactivate the virus and people can get the disease.

Live or inactivated vaccines are used in Russia more commonly.

And just about everything you said is wrong. Not tested? We've had it since March or April and it has been injected since that time.

Honestly NC tried to discuss with you but you just are about as clueless as I have seen in this board.

Get it or don't get it. I legit don't care because my family has all gotten it already. Before my family got it, I loved guys like you because you desire not to get it allowed my family to get it quicker.

But everyone in my family has it so I no longer care.

But please try to stop spouting off just the most ridiculous ideas I've ever seen. Yes, I think that statement is true.

These kinds posts are just so wrong and inaccurate that they may sit on top of that high mountain of stupid things said on this board.

Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10456 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 6:49 am to
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A *vaccine* inserts a small amount of live virus in order to organically create antibodies that can then serve to proactively fight the real virus.
Here is the Oxford Dictionary definition of vaccine:

"A substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease."
This post was edited on 5/25/21 at 6:55 am
Posted by stickly
Asheville, NC
Member since Nov 2012
2338 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 9:18 pm to
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You have no idea what you are talking about.


No. I actually do. What the entire world is injecting into their bodies is still largely experimental and largely unnecessary for all but the oldest, frailest people. All facts.

I do appreciate your activism though. Nice job.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
10157 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:02 pm to
Is this thread devolving into every participant pretending they're the chief etymologist at Johns Hopkins?
Posted by stickly
Asheville, NC
Member since Nov 2012
2338 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:24 pm to
quote:

Here is the Oxford Dictionary definition of vaccine:

"A substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease."


quote:

prepared from the causative agent of a disease,


Yea. That kind of says what a vaccine has been forever until it was redefined to mean any shite that big pharma comes up with. So what's your point other than proving my point?
This post was edited on 5/25/21 at 10:28 pm
Posted by stickly
Asheville, NC
Member since Nov 2012
2338 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:30 pm to
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The fact that he lied about being the top chief science officer at Pfizer is the first big red flag.


He was the CSO of the division that is directly responsible for respiratory disease. Seems pretty cogent, no?
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10456 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 6:58 am to
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Yea. That kind of says what a vaccine has been forever until it was redefined to mean any shite that big pharma comes up with. So what's your point other than proving my point?
That your definition of "vaccine" is wrong or at least incomplete.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10456 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 6:59 am to
quote:

He was the CSO of the division that is directly responsible for respiratory disease. Seems pretty cogent, no?
It does, which makes one wonder why he didn't just say that instead of lying.
Posted by Little Trump
Florida
Member since Nov 2017
5817 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 7:04 am to
Unfortunately most people have taken the jab and don’t want to hear anything negative about them that could actually save their lives!

Odd study of human behavior/defense the I saw in ‘08 housing market when those that bought homes didn’t want to hear market could collapse soon

Nobody wants to admit they made a mistake but the truly smart successful people certainly do have that quality
Posted by jclem11
Neoliberal Shill
Member since Nov 2011
7862 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 7:38 am to
quote:

God has blessed me with health.


Okay? Weird start but let's see where this goes.

quote:

It is in my genetics so why would I want to go messing with it with some unapproved shot.


What? We are going off the rails already. We vaccinate against many things that won't kill us. The "shot" is approved by the FDA and was done so quickly by removing the "red tape" you guys constantly bitch and complain about.

quote:

Most so called vaccines are developed using animal tissue


And? You do realize you are an animal right? You just wear shoes and are aware of your own mortality.

quote:

God made me a human being not part of the animal kingdom which he gave man dominion over.


Mother of god. You cannot honestly be this retarded. This has to be a troll.
Posted by jclem11
Neoliberal Shill
Member since Nov 2011
7862 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 7:42 am to
quote:

I was on a conference call with my boss today and he told us about some heart issues he has had because of it. He also felt really sick for a couple days after the second shot


Now do the covid symptoms.

You guys are great at confirmation bias and mental gymnastics.
Posted by jclem11
Neoliberal Shill
Member since Nov 2011
7862 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 7:45 am to
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They are *body-mod* vaccines with no real testing.


Bruh. Make it stop pls.

Damn near a billion people have been vaxxed at this point.

We have plenty of fricking testing.

MAKE IT STOP.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59157 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 7:47 am to
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stickly


Idiot.
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
11805 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 1:27 pm to
All the booster is more shite to inject in you. Can’t wait for 7,8,9 months to a year and see how many die.

They outa herd all these motherfrickers up and gas em. frick all of em wake the frick up lefties
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92877 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

The "shot" is approved by the FDA


Nope
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