re: Gov. John Bel Edwards wants big changes in how LA biz, individuals taxed

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I don't see why the morals protest came into play so much for the race for governor 10 years after the whole scandal, when apparently voters didn't care too much about it 2 years after the scandal broke when Vitter won re-election to the senate in a landslide.

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You can blame Dardenne and Angelle for that.

Those were two RINOs that were hopelessly outclassed by Vitter on conservative policy with the voting records to back that up so they had to go straight into the gutter of character assassination for 6-7 months and that made the hooker issue a bipartisan issue. If JBE was the only one bringing it up, not enough republicans would've given a shite for Vitter to lose.

It worked pretty well as Vitter couldn't get those republicans in the runoff but it worked pretty well against them too as they are now considered traitors that are persona non grata in the Louisiana GOP after they lost to Clay fricking Higgins or woking for JBE now.

What happens if we all stop paying taxes? It will only work if we all do it. Effectively shut down all government agencies. Survival of the fittest for 20 years, then start over with a new Bill of Rights and Constitution.

Texas has a franchise tax that is somewhat of a hybrid between a gross receipts tax and a corporate income tax.

There are many details that need to be worked out here. This kind of makes the point that corporate taxes are a cost of doing business, more than something that you pay based on success. It's actually a pretty conservative idea.

Plenty of companies in all-glorious Texas pay franchise tax even if they don't make money.

I noticed that the article did not address Corp Franchise Tax in LA. Y'all may not realize that many times, a business here loses money so they pay no corp income tax but they still have positive equity so they pay franchise tax.

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putting a series of complicated rules dealing with pass-through to individual.

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This could be done with a simple LA Schedule E deduction. Might need to add a one page schedule where the individual taxpayer identifies the businesses and the LA revenue ID numbers.

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Right now I have heard that the business would pay the margin/gross receipt tax and partners and individuals could take a deduction (not credit) on their individual income tax.

That could double tax some people. Again have to wait and see the details.

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Yeah that ain't gonna fly... that would put small businesses / passthroughs as paying significantly more in tax than large corporations.

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Then you keep mentioning property taxes, and the homestead exemption even though the state does not collect any property taxes,

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If we were to roll back the homestead exemption, we would move a lot of state spending to the local level. Which, again, is how it's done in Texas.

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Ok cool. So you're going to end state income tax completely? Because Texas doesn't have that and is one of the reasons why they're taxed on TV/internet.

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I would love for someone to publicly ask him this point blank

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Question

GC wins a contract to build a building for a million dollars.

If there is s CAT of 1% does he pay a 10K in taxes?

If he buys his concrete from Ascendion Ready Mix and pays them 10K for the concrete Ascension Ready Mix pays 100 dollars right?

If he hires a electrician for 100K the elec cont. pays 1K right?

If the EC buys his gear from Reulet for 15K then Reulet pays their 1%.

And the beat goes on?

Every entity that is paid on this project pays taxes down the line, right? Not just the GC.

Now in the end where is the money to pay the taxes going to come from? Yes the owner who will bear the tax increase.

Now look at the little guy. When Piggly Wiggly sells you a six pack of beer they will charge you sales tax and the CAT, right? They have to do that or take it out of their profits which won't happen. Again the business won't pay the tax the person that receives the goods or services will pay and that is you.

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Yes that would happen, and is generally refereed to as tax pyramiding. But if all those businesses had a profit, they would be paying a higher rate (6-8%ish) on their profits (not including any credits, etc) so kinda have the same issue anyway with the current system.

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Vitter was a cocksucker that most of the people in the state of Louisiana had grown tired of.

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Then explain him winning reelection twice by crushing landslides after the hooker story broke.

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When you go around and start trashing a guy who was your friend (Dardenne)

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You're placing a huge emphasis on friends that's likely not there and never was.

Dardenne was a career politician that was running for anything and everything and he sucked at role playing as a republican including trying to be GOPe to the core or be conservative, he sucked arse at it.

Dardenne's very limited resume and appeal was never going to go beyond Baton Rouge and he had no business running for Governor.

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If you are Vitter and you go around Acadiana denigrating Angelle, then you piss off Cajuns and they don't like to see some little pansied arse sissy boy from New Orleans doing that . He may have been a RINO, but he was their RINO and a likeable guy despite his flip flopping and slim conservative credentials. Vitter was not likeable

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Then explain Angelle getting his shite pushed in a year later by a youtube reality star cop by those same people who you say considered him "one of their own".

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If Vitter had kept his mouth shut the 30 days before the primary election and just played stupid and just ignore Dardenne and Angelle,

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Dude, they were going into the gutter of character assassination for several months because they didn't have shite on him regarding a good resume, conservative credentials and policies.

If you're the type to ignore that like a chicken shite and let them get away with disgusting tactics, then go right ahead for your own political race. It should work out well for you. Trump had the same shite pulled on him and he fought back like hell and won. Problem for Vitter was that he only had a month until the runoff while Trump had several months to heal the divides in the GOP.

What they did was a murder suicide tactic that put a tax and spend liberal in the governors mansion and Dardenne was smart enough to know it was over for him in the GOP after that hence going to work for JBE to get a paycheck like the whore he is.

Angelle was stupid enough to think he still had a political career and people in Acadiana weren't going to come to their senses a year later when cooler heads prevail and they really reflect on Angelle's tactics and JBE being the tax and spend liberal he is.

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Edwards played politics and proved to be the superior politician. He went and reached out to Angelle and Dardenne the NEXT morning , promised Dardenne a job and promised Angelle his support should he make the Congressional runoff. That is how you play politics.

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So you're congratulating JBE on buying a political whore in Dardenne and giving fake support to Angelle that wasn't going to do anything in Acadiana and he never advertised that to all the republicans that voted for JBE there?

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Blame Vitter for being a little punk .

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Actually I blame Vitter for not laying one hand on JBE until it was too late. JBE walked into the runoff practically unnoticed and it was next to impossible to set a narrative against him with only one month while Vitter was still dealing with catastrophic damage that Dardenne and Angelle did to him.

Not touching JBE until it was too late and relentless character assassination from GOP challengers is why Vitter lost.

He could've possibly survived if only one of them happens but not both. Vitter was way too comfortable and therefore ran a terrible campaign that showed no urgency to cover all their bases.

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Dardenne had been in the legislature with Vitter when he was always whining about EWE.... from the LA Rep. Party's view he had bona fide credentials.

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Whining about EWE? Dude, he was a criminal thug piece of shite that had no business being governor that was stealing from this state and setting us back. It was a great day for Louisiana when he was hauled off to jail.

Oh and the fact that Dardenne works for a guy like JBE that is just as liberal if more liberal then EWE tells me he never cared one shite about conservative ideals the GOP values.

You're full of shite.

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Let you in on a little secret, it was not Dardenne and Angelle who were running the ads against Vitter. It was a law firm fighting some oil companies who formed the super pac that ran those ads.....those guys were Edwards' friends. I knew what was going on as did a lot of people and Vitter should have known.

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I already know this.

VItter was going to push Texas style tort reform that would've put a massive hurting on ambulance chasers in state and they lost their shite and did everything they could to defeat him and they did a good job of a PR campaign against him.

But they've only won the battle and delayed their ultimate loss as we will get tort reform when the right republican comes along eventually and they will lose and there's nothing they can do about it.

Nothing lasts forever.

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Vitter thought he could waltz in. He thought he could declare late, skip the debates and not put in the footwork that was necessary in order to win an election like governor.

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I won't deny that Vitter was way too comfortable and complacent and in a state where it has a jungle primary where republicans and democrats are running against each other, anything could happen and a month would not be enough time to heal the divides in the GOP.

A party primary system does not have this problem as there are several months until the general election.

Vitter should've left nothing to chance and made sure everyone including JBE went into the first round with as much damage as he could possible inflict on them. He didn't do that and predictably he lost and he only has himself to blame for that.

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I really do not consider Edwards to be a really liberal guy( I was not a huge fan of his).

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He had one of the most liberal if not the most liberal voting record in the state house in a very long time.

Being for gun rights and opposing abortion are political necessities in this state and should not be used as a barometer for JBE being "conservative". You don't have to be a huge SJW that screams racist to be considered liberal as hell.

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I would bet though that if Vitter was governor, faced with the same things, he would do much the same that Edwards is doing.

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No he wouldn't.

He would be pushing tort reform which would bring insurance costs down, heavily restrict the flow of state money to local parishes which would save the state a lot of money and he most certainly would not be taxing us out of the arse with nothing to show for it.