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re: GOP House Votes To Leave States Alone On Medical Marijuana
Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:15 pm to Cwar11
Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:15 pm to Cwar11
Cocaine really isn't harmful at all. It doesn't impair your judgement, isn't chemically addicting or anything.
Obviously overuse of it is bad for your health especially heart but the same can be said for many legal substances. It's just a stimulant that gives you energy and keeps you awake
Obviously overuse of it is bad for your health especially heart but the same can be said for many legal substances. It's just a stimulant that gives you energy and keeps you awake
Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:25 pm to GumboPot
Nope.. I work in an or as well and cocaine is used in ent procedures..
Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:31 pm to mmcgrath
quote:of course it is. You wouldn't expect them to admit their party is anti/freedom
Title is misleading
Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:34 pm to Vegas Bengal
quote:Bengal, just curious, but are you a registered democrat?
Vegas Bengal
Posted on 5/31/14 at 1:09 pm to Cwar11
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Right now current laws say that cocaine has more medicinal value that marijuana. I work in an operating room & I can assure u cocaine is used everyday in the OR
You work in the US?
Posted on 5/31/14 at 1:14 pm to Vegas Bengal
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of course it is. You wouldn't expect them to admit their party is anti/freedom
Is the House lead by the GOP, yes or no?
The title is copy and pasted from the NPR link FWIW. Furthermore a Republican lead house could have easily blocked the bill from even coming to the floor for a vote. They didn't.
I also linked the vote count for, as the president says, full transparency.
This post was edited on 5/31/14 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 5/31/14 at 2:30 pm to tatervol
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Nope.. I work in an or as well and cocaine is used in ent procedures..
I'm pretty sure my sinuses were coated with something of that nature when I was having sinus surgery. Whatever it was, it made me feel like I was about to launch.
This post was edited on 5/31/14 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 5/31/14 at 2:46 pm to GumboPot
This is good news. I'm surprised this is all happening so quickly.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 2:47 pm to Vegas Bengal
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of course it is. You wouldn't expect them to admit their party is anti/freedom
Let's be honest, neither party is really crazy about liberty. They both like social engineering, just from different directions.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 3:30 pm to YipSkiddlyDooo
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You work in the US?
Why yes I do work in the US & right here in the good ole state of Louisiana. And yes to the other posted who stated the work in the OR as well, the ENT service loves the use of cocaine & Afrin
Posted on 5/31/14 at 6:46 pm to GumboPot
I'm sure if 15 Dems join with 45 Reps your headline will be "Democrat Senate Votes to leave states alone on medical marijuana".
Posted on 5/31/14 at 7:31 pm to Vegas Bengal
quote:The whole party? Apparently, 49 of them don't fit that description and any quick perusal of this board would tell you that most conservatives are keenly aware that REAL conservatives are a subset of the GOP in the house. The rest may be more conservative than Dems but that's like saying most men are taller than me. That aint saying much.
of course it is. You wouldn't expect them to admit their party is anti/freedom
Posted on 5/31/14 at 7:33 pm to Vegas Bengal
quote:Hell. If you've watched the news in the last 30 years, you know that when the Dems have been in charge of the house, any passing vote that got 10 or more Repubs was called "bi-partisan". Then, the moment Repubs took over, if 100% of repubs voted for a thing and 20 Dems did, it was called a "party line vote".
I'm sure if 15 Dems join with 45 Reps your headline will be "Democrat Senate Votes to leave states alone on medical marijuana".
Posted on 5/31/14 at 8:46 pm to ShortyRob
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Hell. If you've watched the news in the last 30 years, you know that when the Dems have been in charge of the house, any passing vote that got 10 or more Repubs was called "bi-partisan". Then, the moment Repubs took over, if 100% of repubs voted for a thing and 20 Dems did, it was called a "party line vote".
I'll add that if the Dems win a party-line vote, it is 'bitterly contested'.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 11:18 pm to GumboPot
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Regardless this is a major shift in federal marijuana drug policy.
umm no, not yet. It still has to go to the Senate and Harry Reid and his gang are NOT believers in State's Rights. It is up to Reid to schedule a vote, so I would be surprised if this is not another "DOA" to quote Harry on his intent to ignore most of the House's legislation.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 12:19 am to Sentrius
The "shift" that is actually occurring is the Feds reclassifying an entire class of pain medication that over 50 million chronic pain sufferers use now.
The head of the FDA wants to reclassify synthetic narcotics to put in the same category as opoids,or schedule 2, which will add another layer of bureaucracy and make it more costly and difficult for people with chronic pain conditions, like Rheumatoid and Osteo Arthritis, Lupus sufferers, etc.
Even though according to the FDA there is no actually medical reason for doing so. But, according to Janet Woodcock, FDA czar, the reclassification has to do with the publicity surrounding these medications, and a claim that there were 450,000 ER visits from people taking them improperly.
If you think that is a high number, consider that alcohol related ER visits average over 650,000 a year, and illegal drugs are about a million a year.
The tightening of the rules concerning the synthetic analgesics will directly affect over 50 million people.
So no there is no shift into logical reasoning occurring concerning medicine; not as long as this FDA and this Senate and this Admin is in charge.
The head of the FDA wants to reclassify synthetic narcotics to put in the same category as opoids,or schedule 2, which will add another layer of bureaucracy and make it more costly and difficult for people with chronic pain conditions, like Rheumatoid and Osteo Arthritis, Lupus sufferers, etc.
Even though according to the FDA there is no actually medical reason for doing so. But, according to Janet Woodcock, FDA czar, the reclassification has to do with the publicity surrounding these medications, and a claim that there were 450,000 ER visits from people taking them improperly.
If you think that is a high number, consider that alcohol related ER visits average over 650,000 a year, and illegal drugs are about a million a year.
The tightening of the rules concerning the synthetic analgesics will directly affect over 50 million people.
So no there is no shift into logical reasoning occurring concerning medicine; not as long as this FDA and this Senate and this Admin is in charge.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 12:32 am to Sentrius
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We're going to see a significant majority of drugs legalized in our lifetimes.
Pot definitely, but I doubt all drugs will be legalized. Too many jobs and too much money wrapped up in arresting and prosecuting drug offenders.
Just think of the long list of professions which at least in part depend on drug offenders existing.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 12:35 am to deltaland
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Cocaine really isn't harmful at all. It doesn't impair your judgement, isn't chemically addicting or anything.
Over half of all sudden cardiac deaths in people under age 40 are due at least in part to cocaine use.
People SHOULD have ever right to use it, but it isn't harmless. It's actually one of the few drugs that has a decent chance of killing you in "normal" doses. Opiates are far safer in correct doses.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 12:51 am to tigress77
I think the biggest problem is ignorance on the part of lawmakers concerning Med. Marijuana, and the misuse of it already occurring in Libland.
There is an extract; beta-caryophyllene, or (E)-BCP, that in studies show has excellent anti-inflammatory properties.
The extract WILL NOT affect the brain; no one can get "high" with this extract.
Basically there are two types of Anti-inflammatories currently commonly used, NSAIDS and Steroids.
Then there is acetaminophen, which is a common OTC analgesic with no anti-inflammatory properties and with potentially serious side effects; can cause liver damage.
With NSAIDS there can be major side effects, and with Steroids as well. Neither ideal choices for people with inflammatory processes.
If the Feds will allow Pharma to develop (E)-BCP, and it has no serious side effect, this would be huge, millions of people worldwide would benefit.
There is an extract; beta-caryophyllene, or (E)-BCP, that in studies show has excellent anti-inflammatory properties.
The extract WILL NOT affect the brain; no one can get "high" with this extract.
Basically there are two types of Anti-inflammatories currently commonly used, NSAIDS and Steroids.
Then there is acetaminophen, which is a common OTC analgesic with no anti-inflammatory properties and with potentially serious side effects; can cause liver damage.
With NSAIDS there can be major side effects, and with Steroids as well. Neither ideal choices for people with inflammatory processes.
If the Feds will allow Pharma to develop (E)-BCP, and it has no serious side effect, this would be huge, millions of people worldwide would benefit.
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 12:53 am
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