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Germany was seen as liberators by many as they tore through the USSR in 1941
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:10 pm
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:10 pm
Why were they the bad guys again?
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:12 pm to Jtigers99
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:12 pm to Jtigers99
Murdered millions of civilians?
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:13 pm to Jtigers99
Probably because they declared war on us?
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:13 pm to Jtigers99
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:14 pm to Jtigers99
Perhaps you are mistaken. Russians don't cotton to invaders. I don't think anyone considered Hitler's troops as liberators.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:14 pm to Jtigers99
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Why were they the bad guys again?
I dunno, maybe because a fascist "liberating" a communist is still a fascist.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:15 pm to Jtigers99
If the Hitler wasn't a psycho they could have incorporated and armed millions of Eastern Europeans who hated the Soviets
This post was edited on 3/3/17 at 6:16 pm
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:16 pm to Jtigers99
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Germany was seen as liberators by many as they tore through the USSR in 1941
Then the Germans murdered all of them.
This post was edited on 3/3/17 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:16 pm to philter
Stalin killed way more
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:18 pm to Jtigers99
Just war is a matter of who initiates the aggression, not who has the higher body count
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:20 pm to Jtigers99
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Why were they the bad guys again?
Things cannot be accurately evaluated while events are still developing.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:24 pm to Jtigers99
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Why were they the bad guys again?
Liberation was not the goal of Hitler. Land, oil and resources were.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:33 pm to Jtigers99
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Germany was seen as liberators by many as they tore through the USSR in 1941
That's news to me
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:36 pm to DuncanIdaho
You clearly don't know how Ukraine has always felt about Russia. People in Ukraine welcomed the Germans.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:43 pm to Jtigers99
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Why were they the bad guys again?
Seriously dude, you need to read some history books if you have to even ask this question. I would suggest Martin Gilbert's excellent book on World War II and The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William Shirer, for starters.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:50 pm to Jtigers99
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People in Ukraine welcomed the Germans.
In the beginning they did, that is true. Later, after the Nazis began treating the population (except for the ones who were anti-Semitic pro-Nazis and/or the ones who the Germans considered to be racially acceptable, i.e. NOT "sub-human Slavs") as slaves, the Germans weren't quite as popular in the Ukraine. It also didn't help that the German invasion resulted in the Ukraine being devastated by the war and the untold human misery that came with it.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:51 pm to DuncanIdaho
Initially the Ukrainians did see the Nazis as 'liberators'.
They had hoped the Nazis would help them regain their independence from Russia. The Ukrainians remembered how the Russians starved many of them and tried to wipe them off the map.
However, the Nazis were just as evil and soon the Ukrainians turned against the Nazis and looked to the Russian Red Army.
Man, I wish TD had a history board. So much history just in WWII.
They had hoped the Nazis would help them regain their independence from Russia. The Ukrainians remembered how the Russians starved many of them and tried to wipe them off the map.
However, the Nazis were just as evil and soon the Ukrainians turned against the Nazis and looked to the Russian Red Army.
Man, I wish TD had a history board. So much history just in WWII.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:58 pm to Jtigers99
Because the USSR was so hellish that ordinary Russians and Ukrainians figured the Germans had to be an improvement. They were badly mistaken.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 7:00 pm to Jtigers99
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Why were they the bad guys again?
(((I don't know, you tell me)))
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