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re: Germany needs to step up to the plate RE: Ukraine
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:35 pm to Scoop
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:35 pm to Scoop
This is stupid. The Germans aren't doing anything as long as Russia supplies all that natural gas.
As complex as we tend to make things out to be, they are really very simple. Russia supplies energy to Europe. Winters are very cold. Europe isn't in a position to do shite about Russia.
This is why the USA needs to continue to develop our domestic energy sources and build the fricking keystone pipeline.
As complex as we tend to make things out to be, they are really very simple. Russia supplies energy to Europe. Winters are very cold. Europe isn't in a position to do shite about Russia.
This is why the USA needs to continue to develop our domestic energy sources and build the fricking keystone pipeline.
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Posted on 3/8/14 at 2:51 am to WildTchoupitoulas
If I were the Germans I would tell you to take a hike. They don't owe us shite.
This is such a tired talking point.
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There are parallels drawn between the Sudentenland and Crimea
This is such a tired talking point.
Posted on 3/8/14 at 7:31 am to mauser
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There aren't many Ukrainians in the Crimea.
well thats just not true
Posted on 3/8/14 at 7:32 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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You think Germany making some sort of noise wouldn't get Putin's attention?
No b/c Putin would just cut their gas off.
Posted on 3/8/14 at 7:35 am to Swampeast
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If the majority of Crimeans want to be a part of Russia then I think they should be. Anyone that doesn't like it can move.
Well when armed men come into the parliament and force a 100% vote it is hardly legit. That and the poll numbers will be so jacked up b/c the Russians will stop anyone voting anti Russian and they will use their same tactics when they rigged the Ukrainian presidential election.
This post was edited on 3/8/14 at 7:44 am
Posted on 3/8/14 at 7:40 am to WildTchoupitoulas
Germany isn't going to stand against Russia, it will wind up quite the opposite.
Posted on 3/8/14 at 8:41 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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Say Germany mobilizes
bwahahahaha
What exactly do you think Germany has to mobilize?
Posted on 3/8/14 at 9:13 am to Scoop
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I think Stalingrad probably taught the Germans to lay off fighting the Russians for a while.
Naw, this time the wehrmacht would take the oil fields. They learned their lesson: energy > propaganda.
But the consensus seems to be that Germany, and more generally the EU, are too dependent on Russian trade and won't bite the hand that warms them.
So if they don't care, why should we? Why do we talk about our troops before EU troops versus Russia? This is in their backyard, not ours.
Posted on 3/8/14 at 9:28 am to Darth_Vader
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What exactly do you think Germany has to mobilize?
80 million people and an industrial powerhouse right on Putins doorstep - and a history of efficiently killing millions of people. Don't discount the Germans. If you don't think a German restructuring of their defense forces wouldn't give Putin pause, think again.
But at what point do the Germans risk losing access to Russian energy resources? That's their call, not ours. I say it's time to follow Germany's lead on this.
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