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Posted on 1/30/21 at 2:49 pm to Jjdoc
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They have to get rid of what they put in place.
Unfortunately, this isn't going to happen. There isn't support for this. The optics and the suppression screaming will be too much. Not with 30% of the people voting this way. They best they can do at this point is get the two forms of ID in place. This would drastically tighten things up.
Posted on 2/2/21 at 12:49 am to RealDawg
Updated 2-2
Gonna be some battles.
Republicans dropped new bills today some good and some WTF...
Require holographic seal that can link ballot to voter
Limit absentee voting eligibility
Eliminate drop boxes
Limit who can distribute absentee applications
And in the WTF category...Republicans carrying the water for Kemp and SOS
Introduced two bills that require only drivers license number and dob via web portal to request absentee ballots. This is the BS I knew SOS was gonna try to eliminate having to check signatures. This is a huge step backward. They pretend like this is somehow and ID check. You can dump that data from databases easier than you can distribute applications. No friggin Idea what theses Republicans are thinking.
Gonna be some battles.
Republicans dropped new bills today some good and some WTF...
Require holographic seal that can link ballot to voter
Limit absentee voting eligibility
Eliminate drop boxes
Limit who can distribute absentee applications
And in the WTF category...Republicans carrying the water for Kemp and SOS
Introduced two bills that require only drivers license number and dob via web portal to request absentee ballots. This is the BS I knew SOS was gonna try to eliminate having to check signatures. This is a huge step backward. They pretend like this is somehow and ID check. You can dump that data from databases easier than you can distribute applications. No friggin Idea what theses Republicans are thinking.
This post was edited on 2/2/21 at 12:51 am
Posted on 2/2/21 at 2:06 am to BuzzSaw 12
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Couldn't agree more and I live here. All the ID in the world on absentees wont matter if they don't get rid of the machines that are rigged. Most of the votes are done on the Dominion machines. Whoever controls those controls the outcome of any election.
This, all of this discussion is akin to adjusting the flow of downriver streams.....when someone else has control of the dam, but go ahead if it makes you feel good.
Stop pretending there are actual laws that will be abided by, thats how we got here.
And no the laws were not manipulated, they were broken because they did not get changed by the state legislature.
Posted on 2/2/21 at 2:23 pm to trinidadtiger
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Stop pretending there are actual laws that will be abided by, thats how we got here.
And no the laws were not manipulated, they were broken because they did not get changed by the state legislature.
The fact these Republican bills (other than the WTF bill that has support) exist at all is at least a sign they get how screwed up their allowing Dems to right the rules and SOS to make them up has become.
Posted on 2/7/21 at 12:47 am to RealDawg
Two new bills added to OP
Republicans dropped two new bills..
One says absentee ballots can't be mailed or issued within 10 days of election
Another requires any person requesting to vote absentee does so the first time in person (if not military, elderly, etc)
Republicans dropped two new bills..
One says absentee ballots can't be mailed or issued within 10 days of election
Another requires any person requesting to vote absentee does so the first time in person (if not military, elderly, etc)
Posted on 2/11/21 at 7:44 pm to RealDawg
Most bills still in committee or House/Senate match bill being dropped.
OP updated.
HB270 is out of committee with new language -
SB150 is new Dem bill but further pushes agencies to submit user data to SOS and automatically register anybody they have data on (whether they want to or not).
OP updated.
HB270 is out of committee with new language -
quote:Pushes the window out further from election you can register for and received absentee by mail ballots.
mail ballot applications must be received by the board of registrars or absentee ballot clerk no later than 5:00 P.M. on the second Friday before the primary, election, or runoff
SB150 is new Dem bill but further pushes agencies to submit user data to SOS and automatically register anybody they have data on (whether they want to or not).
Posted on 2/11/21 at 7:51 pm to RealDawg
Hold the phone I thought everything was on the up and up why the heck are they changing things now? What are they doing? That’s how you know it was all bullshite but they are gutless and did not do anything when they should have.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 7:56 pm to CheEngineer
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Hold the phone I thought everything was on the up and up why the heck are they changing things now? What are they doing? That’s how you know it was all bull shite but they are gutless and did not do anything when they should have.
A lobbyist friend of mine says there have never been this many voting bills coming from both sides.
A huge range of bills, see which ones stick. Could be some major changes. A couple of the bills supported by SOS are horse crap and will only make things worse. So, not all the Republican bills are positive.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 8:05 pm to RealDawg
Heck of an informative post.
If you have it once, you got it for the second time.
Must happen or Ballot harvesting will be the norm. That's what they were used for.
This, though I have not read the "list" is a must too.
Words like Pandemic etc must be included.
quote:
know we don't want absentee voting by the masses but this is the best possible scenario IMO. Two forms of ID bring the process closer to what in person voting requires. It gets rid of the stupid signature verification. [quote]You have to fraud with your current physical ID 2x to cheat.
If you have it once, you got it for the second time.
quote:
SB68 Gets rid of drop boxes
Must happen or Ballot harvesting will be the norm. That's what they were used for.
quote:
SB71 Heavily reduces absentee eligibility
HB325 - LINK house version of SB71 above. Basically absentee voters are people who must be absent for reasons.
SB73 Limits distribution of absentee applications
This, though I have not read the "list" is a must too.
Words like Pandemic etc must be included.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 8:11 pm to Jjdoc
Most of these won't see the light of day. Maybe 2 or 3 get through in some format. Many of them conflict with each other..including Republican bills.
There will be some heavy debate over the ID rules on absentee votes. The problem is SOS simply want the use of drivers license number in replace of signatures. This is just to make their lives easier. It doesn't in any way slow fraud. In fact, it makes it easier. You simply can have a data base of driver IDs and DOBs and knock out thousands of absentee ballots.
This conflicts with other Rep bills that heavily reduce or nearly eliminate absentee ballots or require heavier real ID laws and tying ballots directly to a voter.
On the other had, the Dem bills expand as much as possible more absentee ballots, everybody gets registered to vote without asking, less voter registry maintenance, permanent absentee voter registration, and more drop boxes.
IF you read through the legislation you can see exactly how we got here and why each and every legislative seat matters.
There will be some heavy debate over the ID rules on absentee votes. The problem is SOS simply want the use of drivers license number in replace of signatures. This is just to make their lives easier. It doesn't in any way slow fraud. In fact, it makes it easier. You simply can have a data base of driver IDs and DOBs and knock out thousands of absentee ballots.
This conflicts with other Rep bills that heavily reduce or nearly eliminate absentee ballots or require heavier real ID laws and tying ballots directly to a voter.
On the other had, the Dem bills expand as much as possible more absentee ballots, everybody gets registered to vote without asking, less voter registry maintenance, permanent absentee voter registration, and more drop boxes.
IF you read through the legislation you can see exactly how we got here and why each and every legislative seat matters.
This post was edited on 2/11/21 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 2/16/21 at 6:50 pm to DreauxB2015
No major actions an existing bills but lots of hearings and duplicate versions being submitted. Few new bills below.
New main bills dropped and added to OP
HB461 - Opening and scanning absentee early. Action a Rep version of similar Dem senate bill. This is ok but requires more monitoring and supports absentee being a thing.
HB406-Rep bill..Add audits of 20 biggest counties for absentee applications, hand counts of absentee ballots, comparisons against machine counts. After elections.
HB365-Reb bill requires election cycle on applications and only use that cycle's application to request absentee.
SB178-Reb bill-Can only get an absentee application if it is requested by the actual elector
New main bills dropped and added to OP
HB461 - Opening and scanning absentee early. Action a Rep version of similar Dem senate bill. This is ok but requires more monitoring and supports absentee being a thing.
HB406-Rep bill..Add audits of 20 biggest counties for absentee applications, hand counts of absentee ballots, comparisons against machine counts. After elections.
HB365-Reb bill requires election cycle on applications and only use that cycle's application to request absentee.
SB178-Reb bill-Can only get an absentee application if it is requested by the actual elector
Posted on 2/16/21 at 7:17 pm to RealDawg
New legislation doesn't solve anything, they either do what they want or write their own law. 
No enforcement (force) = no law
No enforcement (force) = no law
This post was edited on 2/16/21 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:44 am to GeauxFightingTigers1
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New legislation doesn't solve anything, they either do what they want or write their own law.
No enforcement (force) = no law
Trust me..the legislation coming from the Dems can make it far worse. The Rep legislation is mostly counter measures or trying to undo some of what has been done.
Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:53 am to RealDawg
Existing law wasn't followed. Why would this be any different?
Posted on 2/18/21 at 1:56 pm to RealDawg
Bills still being dropped. OP updated.
HB484- Dem bill making voting state holiday, extending early voting, day of voting and registration
HB494- Another Rep bill requiring photocopy of ID for absentee voting
HB506 - Rep bill allowing Counties to use their own voting equipment with standards set by election committee
HB507 - Rep bill limiting who can distribute absentee appplications
HB512 - Rep bill that shrinks early voting window
SB188 - Rep bill that requires better election data statewide including ballots cast
SB202 - Rep bill limiting who absentee applications can be sent to.
HB484- Dem bill making voting state holiday, extending early voting, day of voting and registration
HB494- Another Rep bill requiring photocopy of ID for absentee voting
HB506 - Rep bill allowing Counties to use their own voting equipment with standards set by election committee
HB507 - Rep bill limiting who can distribute absentee appplications
HB512 - Rep bill that shrinks early voting window
SB188 - Rep bill that requires better election data statewide including ballots cast
SB202 - Rep bill limiting who absentee applications can be sent to.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 4:14 pm to RealDawg
SB67 Made it out of committee. I have no FN idea what Republicans are thinking here. This is a SOS pushed bill.
This bill ends signature verification BUT it allows absentee applications to only require the drivers license number and date of birth.
It makes processing applications easier. Entering a driver's license number and DOB IS NOT verification of that person that equates to what happens onsite. This is actually a step backwards.
This bill ends signature verification BUT it allows absentee applications to only require the drivers license number and date of birth.
It makes processing applications easier. Entering a driver's license number and DOB IS NOT verification of that person that equates to what happens onsite. This is actually a step backwards.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 8:31 pm to RealDawg
Certain there has never many so many similar or related bills..Repubs keep dropping them. Two new ones (OP Updated)
One sign the Republicans don't have their shite together or there wouldn't be 400 similar bills.
HB531 https://legiscan.com/GA/bill/HB531/2021 Gets rid of no excuse absentee voting, applications aren't mailed by government, no prefilled absentee applications, shrinks window for receiving, driver's id number on applications (still not good), stronger drop box rules
HB537 HB537Absentee ballots on safety paper, photocopy of id for voting absentee and application, only State and County officials can distribute applications
One sign the Republicans don't have their shite together or there wouldn't be 400 similar bills.
HB531 https://legiscan.com/GA/bill/HB531/2021 Gets rid of no excuse absentee voting, applications aren't mailed by government, no prefilled absentee applications, shrinks window for receiving, driver's id number on applications (still not good), stronger drop box rules
HB537 HB537Absentee ballots on safety paper, photocopy of id for voting absentee and application, only State and County officials can distribute applications
This post was edited on 2/19/21 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 2/19/21 at 8:45 pm to RealDawg
"Georgia sucks! I fear no reprisals!"
Posted on 2/19/21 at 11:56 pm to RealDawg
What's the point of changing all this if SCOTUS allows each state governor or SOS to just change law 3 days before election? And just because they say so?
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