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Free speech used to be championed by liberals. Another cause has bitten the dust

Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:35 pm
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31864 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:35 pm
Now they are the party that champions the CIA, deep state, surveillance, big banks, war with russia, war in the middle east (syria), restrict free speech and open borders. What else have they turned their backs on?


They wonder how they lost the rust belt, WVa etc.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22353 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:37 pm to
Imposing liberal ideology on people requires use of force. It's not the natural state of man and people will always resist it. The totalitarian state is the inevitable end of all liberal movements.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71599 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:40 pm to
I love how ignorant some of y'all are. Here you go....

quote:

lib·er·al

adjective
1. open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values.

noun
1. a person of liberal views.



Start there. You're welcome.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35482 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:41 pm to
I had hope they would turn it around after watching their rhetoric lead to the loss of all three branches but the leadership is content to get paid and watch the inmates run the asylum and their people on the street are just ratcheting it up.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22353 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

willing to discard traditional values.


You mean like those enshrined in the bill of rights? The nuclear family? Respect for human life?
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35482 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:42 pm to
Yeah, actual liberals have left the party for the most part. Those that remain are progs.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

I had hope they would turn it around after watching their rhetoric lead to the loss of all three branches but the leadership is content to get paid and watch the inmates run the asylum and their people on the street are just ratcheting it up.

Yeah, I know politicians had no problem dipping a toe in the gutter, but they're bathing in in these days.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71599 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

You mean like those enshrined in the bill of rights? The nuclear family? Respect for human life?



Sweet cherry-picking.

Also love the hypocrisy. Nice touch.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31864 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:45 pm to
What are you trying to argue displacedcuckeye?
Posted by St James Infirmary
too far from Storyville
Member since Apr 2015
145 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:46 pm to
I don't think it helps you to use 'liberals', 'democrats' and 'millenials' interchangeably in your mind.

Most older liberals are still champions of free speech.
This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 1:47 pm
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22353 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:46 pm to
quote:



Sweet cherry-picking.

Also love the hypocrisy. Nice touch.




Those are a few I see today's liberals fighting to change. Perhaps you had other traditional values you think they'd like to change. If so let's discuss them.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71599 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

argue


This isn't an argument. I provided a definition. It's up to each of you to understand it, or ignore it.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31864 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

I don't think it helps you to use 'liberals', 'democrats' and 'millenials' interchangeably in your mind.

Most older liberals are still champions of free speech.



Then why arent they out there joining in the rally for free speech? Why was the rally so significantly outnumbered in a traditional democrat stronghold?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71599 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

If so let's discuss them.


First, prove that you actually understand what a liberal is.
Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

You mean like those enshrined in the bill of rights? The nuclear family? Respect for human life?


That is exactly their target.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35482 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

Then why arent they out there joining in the rally for free speech?

For the same reason most of you aren't out there. I'm 38 and I have shite to do today.
Posted by St James Infirmary
too far from Storyville
Member since Apr 2015
145 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

Then why arent they out there joining in the rally for free speech? Why was the rally so significantly outnumbered in a traditional democrat stronghold?


Because the young are always out in larger numbers than the old. This is true for rallies throughout our history and in all parties.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36023 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:51 pm to
SFP posted a chart with percentages the other day. I believe almost 90% of Americans aged 70 and over said hate speech should not be censored by the government.
This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 1:52 pm
Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

Sweet cherry-picking.

Also love the hypocrisy. Nice touch.


Deflect much?

Cowboys and outlaws, right guys and southpaws
Good dogs and all kinds of cats
Dirt roads and white lines and all kinds of stop signs
But I stand right here where I'm at
'Cause I wear my own kind of hat.

There's two kind of brothers and two kind of lovers
And two kind of babies to hold
There's two kind of cherries and two kind of fairies
And two kind of mothers I'm told, and told.
Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
Highland Rd
Member since Sep 2009
14814 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:56 pm to
So you're saying liberals champion the causes that are the flavor of the week and are willing to change at a moments notice showing their lack of ideals and consistent belief system?? Basically bandwagon riders with no shred of intellectual grounding based on common causes other than "frick those guys over there"


Did I get that right??
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