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re: Fox: Meuller Grand Jury extended 6 more months

Posted on 1/4/19 at 3:52 pm to
Posted by ILeaveAtHalftime
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Posted on 1/4/19 at 3:52 pm to
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The Starr investigation lasted about four years.


And that is acceptable to you?

Nothing, and I do honestly mean nothing, takes that long to investigate, unless its being done by a public body with public money.

I want the Mueller investigation to be thorough and complete, but to assert that it is perfectly acceptable for it to drag on for years is silly.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 1/4/19 at 3:53 pm to
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lying about a blow job....


1. That's not what his investigation began on.

2. Clinton, as a sitting President, lied under oath.
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 1/4/19 at 3:53 pm to
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And that is acceptable to you?


it was cheered on by the same people that demonize mueller.
Posted by ILeaveAtHalftime
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/4/19 at 3:54 pm to
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it was cheered on by the same people that demonize mueller.




This is relevant how? Its either proper or it isnt, and what random partisans say about it doesn't change that outcome.

The fact that stupid, biased conservatives cheered the Starr investigation and Clinton impeachment bullshite doesn't make them right then, or wrong now, and it doesnt mean that Mueller gets carte blanche to drag this out for four years.

Its objectively ridiculous.
This post was edited on 1/4/19 at 3:58 pm
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 1/4/19 at 4:05 pm to
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This is relevant how? Its either proper or it isnt, and what random partisans say about it doesn't change that outcome.


It was proper for Starr. Rush limbaugh was all over Starr's cock in the 90s, as was Lindsey and a bunch of other Rs. the crimes that Clinton were accused of were much less of a deal than Trump.
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it doesnt mean that Mueller gets carte blanche to drag this out for four years.

If it comes down to Mueller trying to nab Trump in perjury over a blowjob, I will be the first to say its absolutely bullshite.

Not to mention Meuller has far more indictments and convictions in 18 months than starr got in 4 years.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 1/4/19 at 4:10 pm to
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2. Clinton, as a sitting President, lied under oath.


Trump won’t even sit for an interview yet people keep bitching about why the investigation won’t end sooner.

New Rule: No more bitching about the length of the Mueller investigation until after Trump sits for his interview.
Posted by ILeaveAtHalftime
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/4/19 at 4:13 pm to
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It was proper for Starr.


Wrong

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Rush limbaugh was all over Starr's cock in the 90s, as was Lindsey and a bunch of other Rs.


Literally could not be less relevant. What people who are paid to entertain say about something is completely irrelevant. I dont care what Rush Limbaugh says about ANYTHING, and neither should you. What partisans say about purely partisan issues also should not garner one bit of your attention. On top of that, even if those people's reactions 20 years ago were somehow important, it is STILL not indicative of the merits of either investigation, either Starr or Mueller.

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the crimes that Clinton were accused of were much less of a deal than Trump.


The "seriousness" of an alleged defense does not dictate how long it takes to investigate something.

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Not to mention Meuller has far more indictments and convictions in 18 months than starr got in 4 years.


So that is the measuring stick? How many indictments they can find and charge?


The Starr investigation was a travesty. It took longer than the 9/11 Commission Report. That is completely ridiculous, a waste of taxpayer money, and totally unacceptable.

Outside of Mueller uncovering a massive, inter-governmental conspiracy to hand the presidency to Trump, it needs to be wrapped up soon. It just simply does not take endless amounts of time to investigate something, not with the resources Mueller and team have available. Unless of course you allow the scope to expand endlessly, like these special counsels always do. And Im not saying things uncovered during the investigation but outside the SC's scope should be ignored. They shouldn't. But allowing them to drag on, while leaking constantly, does nothing but lead large segments of people to believe it is nefarious.

They need to investigate under the very narrow parameters of their enabling legislation and report back to Congress asap. Ancillary matters that they find should be referred to DOJ for complete investigation.
This post was edited on 1/4/19 at 4:18 pm
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 1/4/19 at 4:22 pm to
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Outside of Mueller uncovering a massive, inter-governmental conspiracy to hand the presidency to Trump, it needs to be wrapped up soon.

Well I am not sure it should be wrapped up soon, but I do think they need to shite or get off the pot on this one. There have been chatter that Don jr, stone, corsi, and others will be indicted. Get the frick to it. get that report out, even if its not complete.
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Ancillary matters that they find should be referred to DOJ for complete investigation.

Like Cohen? Or Butina?

Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/4/19 at 4:24 pm to
If those jackasses can't find anything in 2 freakin years then they need to be fired!
Posted by ILeaveAtHalftime
Member since Sep 2013
2889 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 4:30 pm to
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Like Cohen? Or Butina?


Unfamiliar with the second name, I have tuned out somewhat since the midterms, I got tired of the circus.

I know that he has referred several things to the Southern District, but I was more specifically referring to his charging of Manafort, etc. on things completely unrelated to the trump campaign. That whole class of things should have been sent elsewhere.

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I do think they need to shite or get off the pot on this one. There have been chatter that Don jr, stone, corsi, and others will be indicted. Get the frick to it. get that report out, even if its not complete.


I can agree with this. Don't mistake my frustration with the length of the investigation with partisanship. If the facts warrant indictments all around, then so be it. But lets get it done. The entire country is held hostage politically while this is going on. The quicker it gets resolved, no matter the outcome, the faster we can move on and try to start governing again.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13495 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 5:00 pm to
We get a new AG sworn in, set a timeline and call that George. It should not be more than six months.

Then Trump can release everything and see how foolish mule looked the whole time, and go after he and rosenstein for the U1 coverup.
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/4/19 at 5:01 pm to
Shocked, shocked, I say. Got to keep this thing going so Mueller can drop his report 6 months out from the election.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
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Member since Aug 2005
42738 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 5:02 pm to
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The Starr investigation lasted about four years. Mueller is at less than half that so far, and he's investigating stuff a lot more serious than lying about a blow job....




Starr merely reported evidence of crimes he found to the Atty Gen. Reno kept adding to him assignment.

Everyone knew what he was investigating. Nobody knows what Mueller is investigating.

The Clinton's were excessively criminal people -

The impeachment was all about things Clinton did while in office.

Clinton was not impeached because of a blowjob he got in the Oval Office. He was impeached because of obstruction of justice, perjury = while in office.

But you have to know all that - lazy lazy lazy attempt
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/4/19 at 6:10 pm to
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Trump won’t even sit for an interview yet people keep bitching about why the investigation won’t end sooner.

New Rule: No more bitching about the length of the Mueller investigation until after Trump sits for his interview.



New Rule: Don't start an investigation just because your side didn't win an election.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 6:12 pm to
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think the time is nearing where Meuller needs to report progress and 


Mueller

He does.
Now and then he indicts someone trump used in campaign or current term.
Guilty pleas too.

Ken Starr got 4 years to deal with Nixon.


Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79817 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 6:21 pm to
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The Starr investigation lasted about four years.


So this whole thing is all about getting even and nothing else. Got it.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79817 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 6:21 pm to
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Mueller

He does.
Now and then he indicts someone trump used in campaign or current term.
Guilty pleas too.

Ken Starr got 4 years to deal with Nixon.



You’re sundowning again, Otto. Take your meds and go to bed.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53775 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 6:25 pm to
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he's investigating stuff a lot more serious than lying about a blow job....


what stuff?

What crimes?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31993 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 7:48 pm to
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The Starr investigation lasted about four years. Mueller is at less than half that so far, and he's investigating stuff a lot more serious than lying about a blow job....



I can only imagine what the left would say if trump vaginally probed a young female subordinate intern with a cigar in the Oval Office
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32737 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 7:53 pm to
It’s on Trump at this point. He should have already given Mueller a deadline to finish his bs.
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