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Former Bush staffer with some insight and thoughts on Trump's Phone call comments

Posted on 10/17/17 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 12:25 pm




A reporter for Free Beacon posted it on twitter.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 12:30 pm to
Bush was a good guy deep inside. Flawed in many ways by his father's new world order views, but he was deeply committed to the troops that served under him.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 12:33 pm to
I wonder if Bush 43 will ever truly acknowledge he made a catastrophic mistake allowing Cheney and Rumsfeld to not just be a part of his White House but the goddamn VP and SecDef.

Those two did not have this country's best interests or even the administration's best interests at hear.

But still the blame lies squarely with Bush for listening to them over Condi and Powell.
This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 12:37 pm
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 12:36 pm to
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But still the blame lies squarely with Bush for listening to them over Condi and Powell
Powell and Rice straight up lied before Congress. Every geospatial ISR engineer in the military and in the CIA knows they bullshitted congress on what they saw and knew about WMD's in Iraq.
Posted by notsince98
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 12:38 pm to
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Bush was a good guy deep inside. Flawed in many ways by his father's new world order views, but he was deeply committed to the troops that served under him.


In this day and age, how can anyone still believe this is remotely possible?
Posted by Homesick Tiger
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 12:40 pm to
Junior trying to get revenge for the assassination attempt on Dad was not Junior's smartest move in his eight years in office.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 12:43 pm to
I doubt Obama could have called every one or even most. I think there were still 500 KIA's in his first year in office between Iraq and Afghanistan.

Trump has had 25 so far?

Obviously impossible for W.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 12:44 pm to
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Powell and Rice straight up lied before Congress. Every geospatial ISR engineer in the military and in the CIA knows they bullshiteted congress on what they saw and knew about WMD's in Iraq.


Nonsense, every Tom, Dick, and Harry knew that Saadam had WMD's. For Christ sakes, he used them on the Kurds in his own country multiple times.

Now, whether that was a good reason to invade Iraq and start a decades long occupation is another story, but for absolute certain Saadam had WMDs
Posted by Bison
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Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 12:59 pm to
Okay some random unnamed bush staffer has spoken. That settles it then
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 1:19 pm to
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Every geospatial ISR engineer in the military and in the CIA knows they bullshitted congress on what they saw and knew about WMD's in Iraq.


The CIA bullshitted about WMDs too. This was a case of the Whitehouse telling the deep state to find a reason to go to war, and the CIA producing whatever they wanted.

Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 1:56 pm to
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In this day and age, how can anyone still believe this is remotely possible?


The Clintons? Obama? Trump?

Do yourself a favor and try to find a couple of fricking brain cells to rub together before you post.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 1:57 pm to
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Okay some random unnamed bush staffer has spoken. That settles it then


Generally works for "unnamed sources within Washington", so why not here as well?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 1:59 pm to
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Okay some random unnamed bush staffer has spoken.


It's better than some random, anonymous shite lord named Bison.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45778 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 2:02 pm to
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The CIA bullshitted about WMDs too. This was a case of the Whitehouse telling the deep state to find a reason to go to war, and the CIA producing whatever they wanted.
Exactly. I like Rice. I think she's brilliant enough that her intelligence overcomes her unfortunate horse mouth to makes her attractive to people that dig on intelligence. However, she's guilty of giving Bush and Congress what was needed in order to go to war in Iraq, when it was unnecessary and the wrong target and they were completely wrong on the WMD argument. She is one of the major reasons Europe is in the awful position its in now.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17937 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 2:16 pm to
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The CIA bullshitted about WMDs too. This was a case of the Whitehouse telling the deep state to find a reason to go to war, and the CIA producing whatever they wanted.

Pretty sure tenet was on the record as telling them no wmd's. Who wants to hear that when you've created your office of special plans to fabricate and stretch intel. I forgot what happened when we found out that yellowcake uranium lie was exactly what it was, a lie. I know it wasn't leaking the name of a cia asset to the press, and the presedential pardons for those convicted for doing such. Such great people.
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