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re: For those who keep saying Trump "needs to put away his twitter" & "stop tweeting

Posted on 1/9/17 at 9:00 am to
Posted by Jeff Boomhauer
Arlen, TX
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 1/9/17 at 9:00 am to
I think most people see thru his tweets. Its pretty simple. If you criticize him then he says you are a failure and will go after you. If you compliment him then he thinks you are the greatest thing since sliced bread.

If you criticize him in the morning then say something positive about him at lunch then something else negative at night, Trump's opinion of you will change 3 times in one day
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
79336 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 9:00 am to
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Someone needs to. The MSM won't. Those crazy bastards in Hollyweird are playing their favorite song. The only reason Trump tweets is because the Media is so completely corrupted and biased. It's absurd, and yet it's been this way for a really long time, and until now, people on the right have just put up with it. That clearly didn't work.



I understand your point here, my point is that he's not really doing anything to fill the role of the MSM. He's just rebutting their bias with his own bias in 140 characters.

You'll say Trump is right and MSM is wrong, and I probably agree more than I disagree, but I don't think he's educating the American people or shining light on darkness.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
5645 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 9:00 am to
Personally I enjoy the Trumper tantrums. I think they're going to be a staple of his administration.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83650 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 9:01 am to
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What are the consequences if he doesnt stop


divide this country further

Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
79336 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 9:02 am to
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What are the consequences if he doesnt stop



I don't want him to stop.

Boom, your fricking moronic argument is now deconstructed. You're welcome.
Posted by TheRodFather
Member since Sep 2014
619 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 9:02 am to
Libs hate his twitter because it really chaps their asses to have their bs repudiated so quickly and thoroughly instead of letting the media signal boost their propaganda.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140843 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 9:03 am to
I don't want him to stop either. I want him to be more surgical like Kellyanne though.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
79336 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 9:03 am to
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Libs hate his twitter because it really chaps their asses to have their bs repudiated so quickly and thoroughly instead of letting the media signal boost their propaganda.



This is what I'm talking about

Trump responds "more fake news from biased media!" and people act like it's a detailed takedown. It's just refuting biased conclusions with biased conclusions.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112756 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 9:05 am to
I think the necessary tweets that allow him to set the narrative or maneuver around the media make it worth it.
Posted by TheRodFather
Member since Sep 2014
619 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 9:06 am to
It sounds like if the media wasn't presenting biased conclusions then there wouldn't be anything for him to refute. Perhaps we should go to the root of the problem instead of blaming trump then.
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
7920 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 9:08 am to
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he is an insecure man child who feels the need to comment on every single criticism

this is our leader

this is your savior

that is absurd


I don't disagree that it is insecure...but if that's what it takes to get lower taxes, less regulation, and a president who doesn't sell out the American worker...I'll deal with it.
This post was edited on 1/9/17 at 9:09 am
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
79336 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 9:08 am to
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I think the necessary tweets that allow him to set the narrative or maneuver around the media make it worth it.



Well let's separate this.

I totally acknowledge Trump's tweets are a critical part of Trump's persona and the way he stays in the news and controls the narrative.

But, I think that's separate from claiming Trump is somehow maintaining a substantive check on the MSM or otherwise devastating detractors on Twitter.

The answer may be that, at least for the time being, he's got the mandate and keeping his retorts in the news is how he "wins." That's not really what I'm arguing against, but that might be the best argument for Trump supporters as to the value of his Twittering.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
58967 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 9:09 am to
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he is an insecure man child who feels the need to comment on every single criticism

this is our leader

this is your savior

that is absurd



He is a man who knows he will never get an ounce of balance from the MSM, and he is correct in that assumption, because he will not, and so that drives his need to tweet.

I don't really give a shite anymore. I just want the machine to break

I want to watch them all go out of their minds, and I enjoy someone not playing by their rules and calling a spade a spade. They've had a bully pulpit they've been using to influence American public opinion for decades, and it's long past time to destroy that. The internet is helping, as is social media. He's using it and quite effectively. It can be credited with his election, and hopefully in getting people to pull away from their dependence upon the Media elites for their opinions and more on what's really going on.

If the MSM won't offer balance then let them go extinct. I welcome it with open arms.


Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112756 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 9:10 am to
Unnecessary- apprentice, Baldwin tweets

Very necessary- Russia tweets that bait the media into insanity
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
79336 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 9:11 am to
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It sounds like if the media wasn't presenting biased conclusions then there wouldn't be anything for him to refute. Perhaps we should go to the root of the problem instead of blaming trump then.



The MSM is biased. So is Trump. Don't you think there are probably at least a couple of things the MSM is right about that Trump would still refute?

I don't mean to attack you personally, but the overall mindset is what I'm looking at. People on this board act like Trump is just a beacon of truth that is fighting evil in MSM. But I think it's highly likely that MSM could say something true, and Trump could (or already has) responded with something biased and false. Every President does that.

Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83650 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 9:12 am to
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He is a man who knows he will never get an ounce of balance from the MSM, and he is correct in that assumption, because he will not, and so that drives his need to tweet.


so basically the MSM is the bully in the classroom and Trump is the little kid in the back of the room that the bully tries to get a reaction out of everyday, and the little kid gives in to the bully, only to full the bully more?

awesome

Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140843 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 9:13 am to
Your bully analogy is a tad off.

If MSM is the bully, Trump is the one giving the bully his shite right back to him.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119042 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 9:13 am to
The only reason the MSM is pissed about Trump's twitter is because Trump drives the narrative and not the MSM.

Trump tweets at 3:30 AM for a reason. He beats the MSM dissemination of their narrative. It pisses MSM producers off because they no longer have control of the narrative. They have become lazy and used to either working with the White House or the White House falling in line with the daily narrative.

With Trump occupying the White House and with Trump's 20+ million social media followers, Trump now drives the narrative when he wants to.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
79336 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 9:14 am to
That Trump is exposing MSM bias (to some extent - I don't find his tweets very compelling) is a fine thing.

The negative byproduct, I think, is that it just pits us against MSM, with Trump's 140 characters now becoming the absolute truth to millions of Americans. In other words, he's filling the MSM vacuum with his opinion, and plenty of people are entirely willing to swallow that without questioning it.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112756 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 9:14 am to
Pretty weak analogy. The media is usually the one taking the bait.
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