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For all of you IQ-Deniers

Posted on 10/13/17 at 2:46 pm
Posted by RTRLSD
Member since Jan 2016
1008 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 2:46 pm
LINK

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Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2975 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 2:57 pm to
Not reading that but I know that only people with extremely low IQ read Vox.
Posted by PuddinPopPharmacist
Member since May 2017
790 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 3:06 pm to
Clearly there is genetic differences between people's. Don't believe it, just watch the olympics. It's curious that a lot of dominant Olympic distance runners come out of Ethiopia, and not just Ethiopia, but a specific tribe there. Our differences are not just skin deep and there is no reason to believe all adaptation somehow magically spared the brain. Outside of abuse and malnutrition, intelligence is mostly determined by your genes. Studies back it up and conventional wisdom does too. It's hard not to believe your own lying eyes.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112499 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 3:17 pm to
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Clearly there is genetic differences between people's


Hell, there are IQ differences between dogs. Train a border collie or a poodle and then try that with an Afghan hound.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 3:18 pm to
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Clearly there is genetic differences between people's. Don't believe it, just watch the olympics. It's curious that a lot of dominant Olympic distance runners come out of Ethiopia, and not just Ethiopia, but a specific tribe there. Our differences are not just skin deep and there is no reason to believe all adaptation somehow magically spared the brain. Outside of abuse and malnutrition, intelligence is mostly determined by your genes. Studies back it up and conventional wisdom does too. It's hard not to believe your own lying eyes.


Blank Slate Theory is just another tool the Left uses to steal from those who "can", and blame those who are white.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 3:18 pm to
tI'm goingto skip your article and go straight to the Vox article it's referencing.

So this is is apparently what is so problematic according to the Vox article.
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The consensus, he says, is that IQ exists; that it is extraordinarily important to life outcomes of all sorts; that it is largely heritable; and that we don’t know of any interventions that can improve the part that is not heritable. The consensus also includes the observation that the IQs of black Americans are lower, on average, than that of whites, and — most contentiously — that this and other differences among racial groups is based at least in part in genetics.
I do take issue with it but for a fundamentally different reason: who cares about the consensus? This is aligned with the evidence, and that's all that matters. So like climate change, consensus is merely a representation of the evidence, but not a valid metric itself.
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Harris belies his self-presentation as a tough-minded skeptic by failing to ask Murray a single challenging question.
I'm going to have to listen to the podcast, but Harris is a neuroscientist, so he should be knowledgeable regarding the subject, and I'm guessing what they mean by the lack of tough questioning really means "didn't ask the questions our uninformed views would like."
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he casually proceeds from a few basic premises to the inflammatory conclusion that IQ differences between groups are likely to be at least partly based on inborn genetic differences.
Inflammatory conclusion? It's science in search of truth. Whether something is Inflammatory or not is irrelevant to the science itself.
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We, and many other scientific psychologists, believe the evidence supports a different view of intelligence, heritability, and race.
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We believe there is a fairly wide consensus among behavioral scientists in favor of our views
OK. Now I'm irritated. I have my PhD in psychology, and I've never even met or heard a scientist actually who studied psychology like a science and uses quantitative and objective evidence who has made this argument, or reseach that suggests otherwise.

I'm going to have to go over this in more detail later because this is nonsense.
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 3:20 pm
Posted by PuddinPopPharmacist
Member since May 2017
790 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 3:22 pm to
I'm sure it is because the afghan's dog's culture and socioeconomic status which is the fault of the border collies years of oppression against them.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112499 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 3:26 pm to
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I'm sure it is because the afghan's dog's culture and socioeconomic status which is the fault of the border collies years of oppression against them.


Well, that's better than saying the Afghan dogs were brought up in homes painted with lead paint.
Posted by BradPitt
Where the wild things are
Member since Nov 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 3:29 pm to
"IQ iz uh racist"
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118853 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 3:30 pm to
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Clearly there is genetic differences between people's. Don't believe it, just watch the olympics. It's curious that a lot of dominant Olympic distance runners come out of Ethiopia, and not just Ethiopia, but a specific tribe there. Our differences are not just skin deep and there is no reason to believe all adaptation somehow magically spared the brain. Outside of abuse and malnutrition, intelligence is mostly determined by your genes. Studies back it up and conventional wisdom does too. It's hard not to believe your own lying eyes.



This.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53019 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 3:31 pm to
The lead paint theory was proven to be a myth after it was discovered that white people put lead in their gas to poison the inner city
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12420 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 3:40 pm to
I'm 139+.

Just to put y'all on notice.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68314 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 4:48 pm to
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scientific psychologists

I see the problem. Take out "scientific" and throw on "political" or "activist."
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