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re: Football coach fired for allowing students to eat watermelon

Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:22 pm to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:22 pm to
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Why do you guys act like the watermelon stereotype is a facade?


Alright - I'm just going to say it - my father loved collard greens and fried chicken. Although he had black hair and dark eyes, he was whiter than sour cream. I grew up eating watermelon and fried chicken. I honestly believe it is a southern thing.

I mean, the next thing you're going to tell me is that white people aren't going to be able to cook on their front porches or make elaborate, improvised repairs to things, because that would be suggesting these stereotypes are facades.

I'm not saying that black folks have to "get over" everything. Let's talk about the residual effects of slavery - let's talk about the important issues - lingering deficits in black education and continued high rates of black poverty. You know I'm going to push back, with fact-based arguments, evidence, and suggest that black illegitimacy and black criminal activity are 100% discretionary on the part of members of the community. Those are things black folks don't have to "get over" without a lengthy discussion, though.

But, black folks are going to have to get over watermelon and fried chicken. frick it - use me - say, "Ace Midnight is so white, he's clear - and he loves him some watermelon and fried chicken - he'd eat it every day in a perfect world."

Boom. Done. Then we can move on to some real, significant issues - not one an overly sensitive subset of a larger group gets upset about, virtually nothing.
Posted by AU66
Northport Al
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:22 pm to
What is the basis of Black people loving watermelon? I don`t think i can remember seeing a person of color eating it. I love watermelon! my wife even made a joke about it one day asking if i had any African-American ancestry, now chicken i see that.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:23 pm to
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What is the basis of Black people loving watermelon? I don`t think i can remember seeing a person of color eating it. I love watermelon! my wife even made a joke about it one day asking if i had any African-American ancestry, now chicken i see that.
The fact that you don't know about old-timey racism makes you racist, apparently
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:24 pm to
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Dude im not saying that. There had to be a reason for why he was fired. You can eat watermelon without making monkey noises


No, there doesn't have to be a good reason. You're assuming a lot from a school system.
Posted by tysonslefthook
Near Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2014
1218 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:24 pm to
Black people find a way to make every facet of our society a racial issue, then wonder why so many white people don't like them and do their best to not hire them.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10590 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:24 pm to
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Is this another example of this board being "black obsessed"?

Yes.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
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64325 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:24 pm to
If a two legged ebola infested heroin addicted goat had run against him it would have killed McCain in the 2008 election, too.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101390 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:25 pm to
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Yes.


Thanks. Just keeping tabs on where "we" stand here.
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:25 pm to
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What is the basis of Black people loving watermelon?
Watermelon is cheap and easy to grow. Chickens are cheap and easy to keep. Basically, it was what black people had to eat after the 13th Amendment was passed.

And I mentioned why you don't really see black people eating watermelon in public.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101390 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:27 pm to
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And I mentioned why you don't really see black people eating watermelon in public.


By the way, it seems more than a tad bit stereotypical to extrapolate such a huge generality from a single conversation, with a single black guy, no?
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:27 pm to
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a two legged ebola infested heroin addicted goat
McCain couldn't have run against himself.
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:28 pm to
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By the way, it seems more than a tad bit stereotypical to extrapolate such a huge generality from a single conversation, with a single black guy, no?
He was a community leader.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89516 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:29 pm to
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navy



Making gay jokes is ironic for the Navy, brah. Y'all are our uniformed service gay joke.



quote:

making Y-M-C-A


True story: - Navy Recruiting actually commissioned the Village People to make a pro Navy song, because YMCA had done so well for the YMCA organization.

I guess nobody at the table had the balls to tell the Admiral, "You know this group is gay, right? And that the YMCA song is full of gay overtones? I mean, we have a hard enough time as it is with the Army, Airforce and our own Marine Corps making the gay Navy jokes 24/7..."

Posted by AU66
Northport Al
Member since Sep 2006
3264 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:30 pm to
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Watermelon is cheap and easy to grow. Chickens are cheap and easy to keep. Basically, it was what black people had to eat after the 13th Amendment was passed.


makes sense..FT are you Black or is there anyone here that is black that can confirm what FT has said? That`s kinda wow if true on the not eating watermelon in mixed company
This post was edited on 10/23/14 at 4:32 pm
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:32 pm to
This country - the media, "black leaders", the Democrat party - is obsessed with race. They cry racism every single damn day. And I can't remember the last time it was legit.

What you see here is the backlash to that. I live in the real world, the Deep South no less, and I know that most people who participate in our society are not racist. The race-baiters are batting .000. Every time they cry wolf and scream about evil whitey, they get an eye-roll or they piss off the large majority of white people who are not racist.


And the large majority of white people who are not racist is starting to get sick of it. It's fricking everything up, and dividing lines further.
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:32 pm to
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FT are you Black or is there anyone here that is black that can confirm what FT has said? That`s kinda wow if true
Which part?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101390 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:32 pm to
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makes sense..FT are you Black or is there anyone here that is black that can confirm what FT has said? That`s kinda wow if true


Strong Safety is our resident community leader.

I'm still awaiting his response here.

I don't think Tigah in the ATL is actually black, but he has a marvelous ability to peer inside the souls of both the collective 'white man' and 'black man', so you may try hitting him up on this if you see him around, and Strong Safety doesn't reply.
Posted by AU66
Northport Al
Member since Sep 2006
3264 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:33 pm to
i edited about the watermelon in mixed company
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89516 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:34 pm to
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Watermelon is cheap and easy to grow.


So are lots of things in the South. Tomatoes, cabbages, carrots, etc. It is a visual thing. TBH, there was a LOT of racist folk art from the Antebellum period all the way through the early 60s, peaking in the 20s to 40s - I can't tell you why watermelons, specifically, were selected as this touchstone, but I suspect was because it was easily identifiable, even in monochrome.

But, that's like trying to ban horse racing because of lawn jockeys or banjos because of Sambo. It's an irrational response to a largely systematic problem. I can't pretend to know what it's like to be black, but, putting my best effort into, "What would I do?" - I wouldn't give crap what white people said, as long as they treated me like everybody else. Freedom of speech works both ways and to have that, people have to be free to challenge each other and this includes offending people.

This isn't like the n-word (which can't mean anything else in 2014). This is fricking fried chicken and watermelon - again, of which I am a huge fan.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10590 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:34 pm to
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Well we elected an anti-American piece of shite President just because he was black. Black America has deteriorated further under him, but he is still elected because he is black. Black racists get television shows and mainstream media coverage and are hailed as leaders. Blindly accusing whites of racism is totally acceptable in the media, but whites are expected to be incredibly politically correct when handling all racial issues, to the point that we can't even directly address the issues. It's fricking frustrating.

Dude I'm really sorry. I had no clue. Seems really tough being white in America. I shall never forget how lucky and privileged I am
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