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Flag Burning & Justices
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:44 am
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:44 am
Fellow PB posters,
This flag burning nonsense is alarming to me in the fact that the President elect voiced an indefensible opinion about it. It is also alarming that it seems some erroneously think it is illegal or should be. If you consider yourself a supporter of liberty and freedom and support a law against flag burning you should reexamine your core truths. A flag doesn't make anyone an American. Love and belief in individual liberty and freedom does. This is not a liberal vs conservative, republican vs democrat issue. It is an American issue. Both sides would happily limit freedom beyond burning cloth: LINK
Everyone appears interested in Scalia's replacement and this is a perfect issue to explore that and what a justice should be. Some of you know how much I love Scalia quotes so...
A Bill of Rights that means what the majority wants it to mean is worthless.
If you're going to be a good and faithful judge, you have to resign yourself to the fact that you're not always going to like the conclusions you reach. If you like them all the time, you're probably doing something wrong.
What is a moderate interpretation of the text? Halfway between what it really means and what you'd like it to mean?
As long as judges tinker with the Constitution to 'do what the people want,' instead of what the document actually commands, politicians who pick and confirm new federal judges will naturally want only those who agree with them politically.
In the eyes of government we are just one race here. It is American.
Antonin Scalia
Cliff notes, we are a nation of law not pansy a$$ emotional whims.
This flag burning nonsense is alarming to me in the fact that the President elect voiced an indefensible opinion about it. It is also alarming that it seems some erroneously think it is illegal or should be. If you consider yourself a supporter of liberty and freedom and support a law against flag burning you should reexamine your core truths. A flag doesn't make anyone an American. Love and belief in individual liberty and freedom does. This is not a liberal vs conservative, republican vs democrat issue. It is an American issue. Both sides would happily limit freedom beyond burning cloth: LINK
Everyone appears interested in Scalia's replacement and this is a perfect issue to explore that and what a justice should be. Some of you know how much I love Scalia quotes so...
A Bill of Rights that means what the majority wants it to mean is worthless.
If you're going to be a good and faithful judge, you have to resign yourself to the fact that you're not always going to like the conclusions you reach. If you like them all the time, you're probably doing something wrong.
What is a moderate interpretation of the text? Halfway between what it really means and what you'd like it to mean?
As long as judges tinker with the Constitution to 'do what the people want,' instead of what the document actually commands, politicians who pick and confirm new federal judges will naturally want only those who agree with them politically.
In the eyes of government we are just one race here. It is American.
Antonin Scalia
Cliff notes, we are a nation of law not pansy a$$ emotional whims.
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:47 am to Five0
Some journalist should get smart and post this meme under every Trump tweet:
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:48 am to Five0
I'm glad Trump said what he said. But, I don't support a law to make it illegal and don't really think it will be an issue.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:50 am to Jake88
Don't need a law against it. Just need a few people to get an arse kicking.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:53 am to Five0
The penalty for assault and battery on a flag burner should be $1 and time served.
Nation of laws, bitches.
Nation of laws, bitches.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:54 am to Five0
I knew when he tweeted it that CNN would have headlines all day about Trump being a fascist. However, I do not think it is a ridiculous thing to discuss, albeit not on Twitter. Old Glory is a venerated object, and burning one is certainly on the fringes of free speech. Burning the Flag of the United States is guaranteed to get a hostile response from bystanders, and doing so is deeply offensive to the majority of Americans.
Overall, I think the First Amendment is in place to allow Americans to be idiots, and thus flag burning should be discouraged but allowed.
Overall, I think the First Amendment is in place to allow Americans to be idiots, and thus flag burning should be discouraged but allowed.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:16 am to Five0
I don't care what other people do with their stuff. The whole point of freedom is to be able to do things the masses find reprehensible as long as they don't hurt anyone.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 9:19 am
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:18 am to Blob Fish
quote:
Overall, I think the First Amendment is in place to allow Americans to be idiots, and thus flag burning should be discouraged but allowed.
She with all but the underlined portion. It is perfect for identifying the stupid.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:20 am to Jake88
The title of this story is incorrect. It should read: Trump Baits Liberals into Burning Flags Everywhere, Giving Them Terrible Optics And Causing Them to Lose Yet More Ground in the Culture Wars.
3D chess, famalam. yeah, he's still playing it.
3D chess, famalam. yeah, he's still playing it.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:24 am to Five0
Honestly, I'm just happy to again have a leader who is offended by flag burning.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:29 am to Blob Fish
quote:
I'm just happy to again have a leader who is offended by flag burning.
We all better be or the U.S. flag will eventually go the way of the Confederate flag in time. Get enough pussies to bellyache about it and get the left leaning media to join in and poof, no more flag displayed at government buildings.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:32 am to Homesick Tiger
It's incredible that the nation's symbol can be deemed offensive in parts of the country.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:38 am to Blob Fish
quote:
Honestly, I'm just happy to again have a leader who is offended by flag burning.
Letting someone offend you is you giving them power over you. Another term for it is weakness.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:43 am to Five0
What Trump did was something I call 'Poking the Monkey'.
a. He says burning the flag should be illegal.
b. This prompts Democrats to go out and burn tons of flags in front of cameras.
c. The public sees it and thinks 'what a bunch of bat shite crazy jackasses. I'll never vote Democrat.'
a. He says burning the flag should be illegal.
b. This prompts Democrats to go out and burn tons of flags in front of cameras.
c. The public sees it and thinks 'what a bunch of bat shite crazy jackasses. I'll never vote Democrat.'
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:49 am to Zach
Burning the flag is America's drawing Mohammed. @Popehat
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:50 am to Five0
Trump's position is stupid but short of it becoming a Constitutional Amendment, it would immediately be thrown out by the courts. It's never happening.
As for his Supreme Court justice candidates, IF he sticks with the Heritage/Federalist Society list, we're fine.
As for his Supreme Court justice candidates, IF he sticks with the Heritage/Federalist Society list, we're fine.
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