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Fla. nursing home where 8 died after Irma defends actions, says it called governor

Posted on 9/15/17 at 8:07 pm
Posted by Cassius
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105 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 8:07 pm
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The night before Hurricane Irma began roaring over Florida, staffers at the Rehabilitation Center at Hollywood Hills locked the doors, shuttered the windows and turned the temperature down to about 67 degrees — a buffer, administrators thought, to keep the building cool in case the power went out.

It wouldn't last long. At about 3 p.m. on Sunday, the lights flickered, nursing-home executives say. The power stayed on, but a janitor soon noticed a problem: The massive chiller used to serve the 152-bed facility was spewing warm, muggy air.

The following evening, Natasha Anderson, one of the executives, called a private phone number for Gov. Rick Scott (R) seeking urgent help, Anderson said. It was the first of three such calls, she said.

"Repeatedly, I was told that our case was being escalated to the highest level," Anderson said.


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Yet, she said, no one came — and nursing-home officials did not consider the crisis urgent enough to bring patients to the hospital across the road.

By noon Wednesday, eight residents were dead. Their deaths are being investigated as criminal homicides, and the nursing home has been closed.

The account the nursing-home executives provided to The Post offers new details of the deteriorating conditions inside the facility. But it also is contradicted by law enforcement and state officials on key points, including how aggressively the nursing home had sought assistance and precisely when staffers called 911 as a patient went into cardiac arrest.

Attempts to assign blame abound.

The Florida Department of Health said that "at no time" did the nursing home "report that conditions had become dangerous or that the health and safety of their patients was at risk."

"It's shocking that these trained medical professionals put patients' lives in needless jeopardy. The fact is that this facility never called 911," said Mara Gambineri, a spokeswoman for the department. "The Rehabilitation Center at Hollywood Hills is responsible for the health and safety of their patients."
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48953 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 8:08 pm to
Terrible situation all around
Posted by Cassius
Member since Sep 2017
105 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 8:10 pm to
Absolutely, I blame the nurses in that situation and the CEO of that facility.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 8:15 pm
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54210 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 8:21 pm to
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Yet, she said, no one came — and nursing-home officials did not consider the crisis urgent enough to bring patients to the hospital across the road.



This is a very confusing statement.
Posted by Cassius
Member since Sep 2017
105 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 8:23 pm to
It's because she is lying.

They are all going to be fighting for their licenses.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 8:24 pm to
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Absolutely, I blame the nurses in that situation and the CEO of that facility.
Yeah. And this statement doesn't make much sense to me:
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Yet, she said, no one came — and nursing-home officials did not consider the crisis urgent enough to bring patients to the hospital across the road.
Why would it matter if no one came to save them when safety was literally right across the road, AT A HOSPITAL of all places? It's like dying of starvation because no one brought food when there is a grocery store right across the street.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 8:28 pm to
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This is a very confusing statement.
Yeah. You know they messed up when in an attempt to push the blame on someone else, they make themselves look way more guiilty. It's like a person admittting to a crime, while some how thinking that a valid defense Is pointing out that no one tried to stopped the crime from happening.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 8:30 pm to
Gross negligence defeats the cap, as it should
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54210 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 8:32 pm to
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It's like a person admittting to a crime, while some how thinking that a valid defense Is pointing out that no one tried to stopped the crime from happening.


Yeah, her statement rates up there with the guy who calls the cops - "someone stole my marijuana plants. Can you help me?"
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51806 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:21 pm to
This is something I know a little more about that the average Joe.

They were cited last year because their generators weren't working. According to the rules you have 60 days from the day of the citation too fix them.

This is what they call an immediate threat to life situation. There is no gray area.

Someone is going to jail. It's that simple.
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:25 pm to
It's a tragedy but how old were the people who died? 80? 90? 95?

People that old are extremely fragile and die very easily.

Just be honest about it, the nursing home didn't kill these people, old age did.

The nursing home maybe could have been more proactive to stop it, sure.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 10:29 pm
Posted by Cassius
Member since Sep 2017
105 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 1:21 am to
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It's a tragedy but how old were the people who died? 80? 90? 95?

People that old are extremely fragile and die very easily.

Just be honest about it, the nursing home didn't kill these people, old age did.

The nursing home maybe could have been more proactive to stop it, sure.


You might have a different perspective if one of your grandparents died in a preventable situation. Yea their old but that's not the point. The point is the nursing home had a responsibility to guard these people's lives.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 1:30 am to
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Just be honest about it, the nursing home didn't kill these people, old age did.
Well let's be honest. Were there other nursing homes both impacted by the Hurricane and not impacted by the Hurricane who had a similarly high percentage and total deaths as this one during the same (or any) time frame?

If not, then old she doesn't work as the sole reason.
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IAmReality
Your screen name is becoming more and more ironic as you post these thoughts that seem to be coming from someplace other than reality, at least some normal and objective one.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123934 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 3:41 am to
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They were cited last year because their generators weren't working. According to the rules you have 60 days from the day of the citation too fix them.

This is what they call an immediate threat to life situation. There is no gray area.

Someone is going to jail.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48928 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 4:05 am to
When you have to depend on the government for ANYTHING prepared to be disappointed
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12104 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 4:10 am to


I've said this in other threads and it is just as applicable here-

They should not have been given a license to operate without an adequate evacuation plan in place. That is exactly the kind of shite city/town/county councils should concern themselves with - but no no, they'd rather spend their time bitching about frivolous shite. (Oh the stories I could tell. Having had to deal with these frickers time and time again I can tell you that they are all fricking useless.)

How is it that a nursing home in Florida is allowed to operate without having a plan to deal with hurricanes. Florida! It isn't like hurricanes are some unexpected thing. They shouldn't be calling the Governor's office for help. Imagine if everyone called them for help... then you'd get exactly what you have here - a small group of government people trying to aid a frickton of people whom couldn't be bothered to plan ahead.
Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
Member since Oct 2015
6860 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 4:23 am to
quote:

t's a tragedy but how old were the people who died? 80? 90? 95?

People that old are extremely fragile and die very easily.

Just be honest about it, the nursing home didn't kill these people, old age did.


Just a few points:

1- What a ignorant statement.

2- It's a shitty statement made out of ignorance.

It suggest that these people didn't deserve the care, services, and protection promised them and their families.

Your comments make it sound like they were at the end of their lives... oh well. It's just shitty on your part. I put that attitude in the same boat as I do the thugs looting and rioting.



BTW.. My dad is 85, still drives and is by all indication a better person than you.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 4:24 am to
Old age all of a sudden came knocking on the door of eight people of various age and health?

You don't really believe that. And even if you rest on your fragility argument ... do you even eggshell skull, bro?

This post was edited on 9/16/17 at 4:28 am
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56306 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 4:28 am to
quote:

st be honest about it, the nursing home didn't kill these people, old age did.

The nursing home maybe could have been more proactive to stop it, sure.
no different than kids left in hot cars
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90625 posts
Posted on 9/16/17 at 8:34 am to
There was a hospital across the road? Nobody thought to run over there and get medical help?
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