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re: Fergusons famed and reliable "witness 40"--
Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:48 am to StrongSafety
Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:48 am to StrongSafety
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I refuse to call a kid a "thug"
After getting 2 glimpse into life.
When would YOU call someone a thug?
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:50 am to novabill
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I refuse to call a kid a "thug"
After getting 2 glimpse into life.
If I refused to call a white kid a thug who behaved the same way, I'd get accused of racism with a quickness.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:52 am to StrongSafety
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What I've argued is that the grand jury process was geared towards exonerating wilson
How so, giving the GJ too much info?
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Other than that, the case is littered with uneven eye witness testimony, shoddy investigative work, no fingerprints on the gun, no found cigars, etc.
Yet, Wilson should have been indicted, even with all the problems you cited?
Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:55 am to uway
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Get over it and use another word.
Because SOME black people think it is a racist word?
What is next, do we need to consult a list of forbidden words before speaking?
Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:55 am to novabill
quote:The case was shite. The only way to have indicted Wilson would've been to flat our rig the GJ.
What I've argued is that the grand jury process was geared towards exonerating wilson
Other than that, you had conflicting witness testimony across the board and no compelling evidence contradicting Wilson's testimony.
We don't indict people just because StrongSafety thinks we should.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:58 am to novabill
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Get over it and use another word.
Because SOME black people think it is a racist word?
What is next, do we need to consult a list of forbidden words before speaking?
I've been saying for a long time that no longer does it appear good enough to blacks that you not be racist. NOW, you must anticipate what a stupid person would THINK is racist.
This is an absolutely impossible bar to hop over. It reminds me of when the guy in D.C. used the word "****rdly" which is a word rooted in Norse languages. He was told he should've "anticipated that some blacks would think it was racist".
frick that shite. I refuse to have to anticipate what a stupid person will think.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:58 am to StrongSafety
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I will afford that kid the same benefit of the doubt or lapse in judgement that was given to everyone that I knew from college that got in brawls at bars, got DWIs, got MIPS, committed vehicular homicide, did truck loads of drugs, got arrested, spent nights in jail, stole from campus cafeterias and from off campus liquor stores, etc.
All those "kids" went on to be successful CFAs, CPAs, JDs, MDs, etc.
I'll call it what it is--a lapse in judgement. I nor you know enough about that kids life to condemn him as a thug. His last moments surely didn show him to be an angel, but that's all we have. I refuse to be as short sighted as those that cast him as a street thug who got what he deserved. If that's the case, then we have many successful street thugs cloaked as business people, lawyers and doctors.
There is NOTHING Brown could have done for SS to consider him a criminal or a thug. He was simply a good boy that made some bad choices.
Following this reasoning, no one should ever be considered a thug or a criminal. Although, I doubt SS would be so willing to withhold judgement if we were discussing Timothy VcVeigh.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:59 am to novabill
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What is next, do we need to consult a list of forbidden words before speaking?
You could start by just not unnecessarily using any words that you think might come across as racist.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:00 pm to novabill
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I will afford that kid the same benefit of the doubt or lapse in judgement that was given to everyone that I knew from college that got in brawls at bars, got DWIs, got MIPS, committed vehicular homicide, did truck loads of drugs, got arrested, spent nights in jail, stole from campus cafeterias and from off campus liquor stores, etc.
at this list of examples. Oh, and in any case, that someone may grow out of being a thug does NOT negate that while behaving as a thug, they are in fact, THUGS!
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:02 pm to uway
quote:You replace the word "thug" with any other word designed to describe the same thing and in about a millisecond, your new way of articulating it will be referred to as "code".
You could start by just not unnecessarily using any words that you think might come across as racist.
I mean, did you wake up from a 40 year COMA yesterday?
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:02 pm to StrongSafety
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They are facts that there was a fight in the car, brown slapped boxed with him and that the shots were fired from ranges that officer wilson, after getting 2 months to conjure up a story, stated. Other than that, the case is littered with uneven eye witness testimony, shoddy investigative work, no fingerprints on the gun, no found cigars, etc.
So no statement was taken from Wilson in the week after the shooting?
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:03 pm to uway
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I would liked to have not seen conservative white America (my people iow) react to this whole story in such a predictable way, basically just seeing it as another opportunity to confirm their preexisting biases. Also wasted an opportunity to talk about police tactics.
uway, thank you.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:03 pm to uway
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You could start by just not unnecessarily using any words that you think might come across as racist.
You have a handy link to such a list or are we just supposed to "know"?
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:03 pm to novabill
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Yet, Wilson should have been indicted, even with all the problems you cited?
If Wilson wasn't a cop, he would have been indicted, but DA's acting as cops' de facto defense attorney during the grand jury process is nothing new. Eric Holder had an abysmal record when it came to prosecuting bad cops when he was a federal attorney in D.C.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:05 pm to trackfan
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If Wilson wasn't a cop, he would have been indicted
He wouldn't have been involved. However, If someone tries to take my gun to use it on me, I'll shoot them too.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:06 pm to uway
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I don't really think you believe that once someone tries to disarm a cop that person forever loses his right to live, even if he broke off that encounter and tried to escape and was no longer threatening the cop or anyone else.
However, the encounter did not end. If, later in the same encounter that person refuses the officer's orders and continues to approach the officer in a hostile manner, he is still a threat. Is he not?
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:07 pm to novabill
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However, the encounter did not end. If, later in the same encounter that person refuses the officer's orders and continues to approach the officer in a hostile manner, he is still a threat. Is he not?
Absolutely.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:07 pm to trackfan
quote:Speculation.
If Wilson wasn't a cop, he would have been indicted
If I were on a GJ for a regular citizen and no forensic evidence contradicted that citizen and the witnesses are conflicting, I'm not voting to indict. That's all I can go on. What I would do if I were on a GJ. Anything else is guesswork.
quote:Maybe his record wasn't bad. Maybe it was just correct???
Eric Holder had an abysmal record when it came to prosecuting bad cops when he was a federal attorney in D.C.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:07 pm to trackfan
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but I also believe that Brown tried to give himself up before the last shots were fired.
Based upon ....?
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:07 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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He wouldn't have been involved. However, If someone tries to take my gun to use it on me, I'll shoot them too.
I'm not talking about the shots that took place in the car before Brown ran and Wilson chased him.
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