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re: Ferguson riots again... Thanks CNN!

Posted on 3/14/17 at 5:21 pm to
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53472 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 5:21 pm to
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This has absolutely no bearing on the fact that he assaulted a cop and tried to take his weapon. What do these people think this proves?




That's 100% correct!
Posted by papasmurf1269
Hells Pass
Member since Apr 2005
20897 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 5:22 pm to
I don't care what the new video showed. He still attacked a cop and tried to take his gun from him. No video is going to change that.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53472 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 5:22 pm to
Correct!
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99028 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 5:23 pm to
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But a film is free speech, dishonest or not, so I don't think a practical solution in a free society is to take his money.


Even a film critical of Muslims? Obama had that filmmaker arrested.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 5:23 pm to
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Nope! Just reminding you what your side did.
That's odd. I distinctly remember voting for Romney right around that time that was happening.

What does he have to so with this?
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You should not have an issue with the fed gov continuing that great tradition!
I constantly post how much I despise government meddling.

Yet, I because I don't support Trump, unless he's limiting the government, you keep ignorantly accusing me of being a Democrat.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 5:25 pm to
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Even a film critical of Muslims? Obama had that filmmaker arrested.
Yes. A film critical of anybody and anything should be allowed.

How many times do I have to state that I think Obama was a poor president before people stop assuming I somehow supported him?
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 5:25 pm
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99028 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 5:25 pm to
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"Hands up, don't shoot!"




Pants up, don't loot!
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31636 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 5:26 pm to
That's not enough on here. You have to either hate him or think he was the worst ever.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99028 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 5:29 pm to
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That's not enough on here. You have to either hate him or think he was the worst ever.


You're exaggerating. We'd also accept him being the second worse after Carter.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 5:35 pm to
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For what I've heard, the film seems terribly dishonest and morally reprehensible. But a film is free speech, dishonest or not, so I don't think a practical solution in a free society is to take his money.


Incorrect. If the result of intentional dishonesty, is the loss of private property by individuals, they have a case in civil court. If the result is the commission of illegal acts and that result was reasonable foreseeable, he is liable in criminal court for inciting those criminal acts.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 5:37 pm to
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On another note, if you want him punished for his dishonesty, then you should want Alex Jones punished for his dishonesty given his history of so many insane and unfounded accusations and conspiracies.


When did Alex Jones' audience go out a riot as a result of his reporting?

Free speech comes with certain responsibilities. Intentional distortions aimed at inciting a riot are not protected.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 5:39 pm to
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I prefer to put the blame on the actions of the people doing the illegal acts. They're the ones who bear the accountability for their actions.


Intentionally inciting a riot is illegal and should be prosecuted. Rioting is also illegal and should be prosecuted.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105413 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 5:40 pm to
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Alex Jones has never incited rioting to my knowledge.




That says more about the people that make up his audience then him really. The left doesn't take much to incite it seems. They love lawlessness and stealing things during riots. a sign of real ignorance and being uneducated. Perpetual cycle of entitlement generation after generation.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 5:40 pm to
The cop did nothing wrong...


...except apply for a job with the Ferguson, Missouri police department.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 5:43 pm to
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A film critical of anybody and anything should be allowed.


The film was allowed. Now the creator of the film should be held reasonable responsible for his part in those actions directly related to the release of the film. What do you not understand?
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 5:45 pm
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 5:47 pm to
Those Ferguson* boys best be careful.



There's a new sheriff in town. A couple of them, in fact.

* By 'Ferguson boys' I primarily mean whoever Soros has paid to go there & start shite.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 5:54 pm to
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Intentionally inciting a riot is illegal and should be prosecuted.
Does the film tell people to riot? If it does, then I can see the accusation of inciting a riot. Otherwise, the blame for idiots rioting, who are likely looking for any excuse to riot, should be held solely by the idiots rioting.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 5:56 pm to
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Now the creator of the film should be held reasonable responsible for his part in those actions directly related to the release of the film. What do you not understand?
That the accountability lies with the people who do the illegal act.

Just like I thought it was absurd that left tried to blame the right's "vitriol" for Gifford's shooting.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 5:58 pm to
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When did Alex Jones' audience go out a riot as a result of his reporting?

Free speech comes with certain responsibilities. Intentional distortions aimed at inciting a riot are not protected.
See this is the issue. Both are just as dishonest and reprehensible. The action's of others in response is irrelevant.

I mean if some stupid conspiracy that Jones has been arguing about for years is suddenly picked up by some group looking for a reason to riot, that doesn't all of a sudden make Jones any more or less culpable.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 6:03 pm to
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How many times do I have to state that I think Obama was a poor president before people stop assuming I somehow supported him?
ballscaster alter ^^^
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