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Posted on 4/13/14 at 8:52 pm to Rex
quote:Swiiiiing and a miss.
It has mostly to do with the fact that he promoted the use of guns against the government, any actual legitimate or legal reason be damned.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 10:55 pm to Rex
quote:Duh. My point was that I generally side with the people over govt.
This was not an eminent domain issue.
quote:Not I.
righties who are most prone to approve things like George Bush seizing a man's house in order to enrich himself with a new Texas Rangers stadium.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:15 pm to NC_Tigah
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Clark County commissioners
Sounds like a local government isssue to me.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:22 pm to SpidermanTUba
quote:There was a recent incident involving BLM and a fellow named Bundy. You may be unaware of that?
Sounds like a local government isssue to me.
Or perhaps you thought BLM stands for Bunch of Local Men?
Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:24 pm to NC_Tigah
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There was a recent incident involving BLM and a fellow named Bundy. You may be unaware of that?
You mean the part where a rancher thinks he gets to decide the fee for grazing his cattle on public land - and that fee is $0 - ripping off the government to the tune of $1,000,000+? Yeah I've heard about it. Apparently he thinks the Founders intended the government to not own property.
This post was edited on 4/13/14 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:25 pm to SpidermanTUba
quote:Sounds local to me.
ripping off the government
Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:36 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Sounds local to me.
The federal government sounds local?
A big foreign company wants to build a solar power plant in the MIDDLE OF THE frickING DESERT - why on EARTH would they want to build it way out there in the middle of fricking nowhere in the heat of the desert - it MUST be a conspiracy!!!
Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:42 pm to SpidermanTUba
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You mean the part where a rancher thinks he gets to decide the fee for grazing his cattle on public land - and that fee is $0 - ripping off the government to the tune of $1,000,000+?
Can you please post a link showing this claim of a government loss of $1 mil. Thanks.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:42 pm to SpidermanTUba
quote:
Sounds like a local government isssue to me.
quote:As a matter of fact, no.
The federal government sounds local?
Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:46 pm to Apache
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Can you please post a link showing this claim of a government loss of $1 mil.
How much do you imagine it would cost to feed 500 head of cattle for over 20 years?
Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:56 pm to Rex
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And, by the way, it was we "lefties" who protested the loudest over the Supreme Court's Kelo decision, but you righties who are most prone to approve things like George Bush seizing a man's house in order to enrich himself with a new Texas Rangers stadium.
you mean when Mr. Bush paid way over appraisal value to buy out the house? Just like Mr. Jones did when constructing Jerryworld?
that's capitalism. the owners of the property didn't have to take the check
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:01 am to WinnPtiger
Old Bundy sure pissed of BigGov lovers.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 10:00 am to RogerTheShrubber
this story is straight out of house of cards
i mean..i was hoping that show was mostly fiction..clearly its way more truth than anyone realizes.
i mean..i was hoping that show was mostly fiction..clearly its way more truth than anyone realizes.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 10:04 am to Rex
quote:Leas than Medicaid expansion.
How much do you imagine it would cost to feed 500 head of cattle for over 20 years?
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 10:05 am
Posted on 4/14/14 at 10:26 am to Taxing Authority
I must give credit where due...if Obama called off the dogs on this one so as to avoid what was likely to be a blood bath, I give him credit for taking the higher road.
I think that the government was actually in the right on this whole issue based on what I know. The had the right to use force to enforce the law it would appear as well.
However, having the right and ability to do something and actually doing it are not one in the same. I am glad this worked out for the better and give Obama credit if he made the call.
I think that the government was actually in the right on this whole issue based on what I know. The had the right to use force to enforce the law it would appear as well.
However, having the right and ability to do something and actually doing it are not one in the same. I am glad this worked out for the better and give Obama credit if he made the call.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 10:34 am to Rex
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What happened, simply, is that the government didn't want anybody to get hurt over a cow issue. The government was not so much impressed with the arms against them but with the stupidity and irresponsibility of the people carrying those arms.
I guess Clinton and Reno had more balls than Obama and Holder. Ruby Ridge and Waco come to mind.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 10:46 am to roygu
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Reno had more balls than Obama and Holder.
she did! this took REAL courage
Posted on 4/14/14 at 10:49 am to DeltaDoc
quote:
I must give credit where due...if Obama called off the dogs on this one so as to avoid what was likely to be a blood bath, I give him credit for taking the higher road. I think that the government was actually in the right on this whole issue based on what I know. The had the right to use force to enforce the law it would appear as well. However, having the right and ability to do something and actually doing it are not one in the same. I am glad this worked out for the better and give Obama credit if he made the call.
I agree with all of this, but I am suspicious of why the Feds. chose to draw a line in the sand now and in this particular case. And what would they have done if not faced with armed resistance?
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 10:52 am
Posted on 4/14/14 at 10:52 am to roygu
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I guess Clinton and Reno had more balls than Obama and Holder. Ruby Ridge and Waco come to mind.
The first bush was in office and Bill Barr was AG during Ruby Ridge.
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