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re: Federal scientist cooked climate change books ahead of Obama presentation

Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:28 pm to
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:28 pm to
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Thanks for confirming my point



You live in your own world, where whatever you nthink is real, is real.
How do you know I didn't read their replies...and most all other AGW catechisms?
Lets try the shoe on the other foot. Go read the Climategate documents...but I know you won't.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:30 pm to
I've read all of the documents and emails

This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 6:31 pm
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:30 pm to
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I don't know

Why not?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:31 pm to
Because that is impossible to prove
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:37 pm to
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I've read all of the documents and emails


Where did you find fault in them? Which topics?
Posted by member12
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:39 pm to
Some people are clearly upset about this inconvenient article.

Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:42 pm to
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how are they fake?


Individual data points are neither here nor there. Science is quite specific and relies on one and only one methodology. Alter those standards by fudging an unknown element, and you can wear a white smock and project graphs on a screen all day..it doesn't matter, it's not science at that point,. So to answer your question, they are fake by virtue of manipulating data to nudge the conclusions in the direction that is beneficial to the research's continuation.
Posted by member12
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:44 pm to
I suppose attacking the source counts for debunking things these days.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:44 pm to
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So to answer your question, they are fake by virtue of manipulating data to nudge the conclusions in the direction that is beneficial to the research's continuation.


Not what they did
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:46 pm to
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I suppose attacking the source counts for debunking things these days.


No..not the source.. (whatever you mean by that)..the methodology.
Posted by dewster
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:48 pm to
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This proves GW is fake


Not really....but the attack and dismissal of the whistleblower does not surprise me.
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:49 pm to
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Not what they did

Regardless of your claim, it is obvious that you, in fact, did not read the CRU documents.

But maybe I'm wrong. Which communications, between which researchers did you find to be the most damning to the "skeptic" argument? Which topics and what methodologies?
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:50 pm to
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Because that is impossible to prove
Interesting isn't it called man made global warming?

But you know we need to do something correct?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:51 pm to
I'm discussing the article in the OP

If you want to discuss the 2006 stuff, start another thread or wait till tomorrow

I don't have time to break that down
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:51 pm to
Why do you keep asking me leading questions?
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:58 pm to

quote:

I'm discussing the article in the OP

If you want to discuss the 2006 stuff, start another thread or wait till tomorrow

I don't have time to break that down




Thanks for confirming my point
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 7:00 pm to
That doesn't make sense, Dale
Posted by dewster
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 7:01 pm to
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This has been debunked 100 times


Out of curiosity.....how is the article in the OP debunked?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 7:04 pm to
Like most fake news articles, they take something out of context and twist it to fit an agenda
Posted by dewster
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 7:05 pm to
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Like most fake news articles, they take something out of context and twist it to fit an agenda


So I take it you can't debunk the article?
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