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re: Erdogan threatens EU with refugee tidal wave.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 11:23 am to vuvuzela
Posted on 11/25/16 at 11:23 am to vuvuzela
quote:I'm sorry that Italian woman was fighting a war? I missed that part.
You made a point that a person who went to share love was killed, to refute the point that love can heal all. I made a counterpoint that death is expected in any war, so your example isn't profound in any way. See Gandhi, Jesus, MLK, or any historic humanitarian for examples.
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 11:25 am to vuvuzela
quote:No I was not, I was showing you that people like you, Christians, are not wanted in the ME, they do not want you to teach peace to them, they do not want peace with you.
to refute the point that love can heal all.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 11:25 am to Strannix
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And thousands of innocent German children were killed in WW2, would posting a picture of them to tug at your heartstrings swayed you to import Nazis?
War was needed then, and probably needed now to overthrow an evil regime. My initial point, and purpose for response, was for you to consider that the people aren't "rats" but are innocent human beings. Just like me and you. The people aren't evil inherently is my point, but when you call 2 million people "rats" and "sub-species" it is gravely concerning about the condition of our hearts as Americans.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 11:28 am to vuvuzela
quote:typical Dem, Lib, Prog, preach peace and in the same breath condone the over throw of a regime.
War was needed then, and probably needed now to overthrow an evil regime. My initial point, and purpose for response, was for you to consider that the people aren't "rats" but are innocent human beings. Just like me and you. The people aren't evil inherently is my point, but when you call 2 million people "rats" and "sub-species" it is gravely concerning about the condition of our hearts as Americans.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 11:31 am to vuvuzela
Sorry IDGAF, I want to preserve a beautiful culturally significant culture such as the western and Northern Europeans. If they die in the desert it would be because they're men thought it better to travel to Germany and get on welfare and rape white women instead of fighting for a nation.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 11:33 am to ninthward
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typical Dem, Lib, Prog, preach peace and in the same breath condone the over throw of a regime.
I am progressive, but I am not a democrat. I understand the reality of global politics and the needs to intervene from time to time to prevent atrocities. I don't fit your stereotypes and media given definitions, so you are confused. I understand the need for military intervention and respect and appreciate it. I also know that the motivations must be humane and altruistic, not "they are different from us!" Maybe you'll awaken to that some day.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 11:36 am to vuvuzela
The progressives are supporting a grotesque faction in ISIS against Assad
Posted on 11/25/16 at 11:38 am to Strannix
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The progressives
You do know there are many forms of progressive? Many, many unique and inherently different forms.
Part of the problem with this country and board is that everyone tries to group everyone into a subset of political association. It is simply not true.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 11:39 am to vuvuzela
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everyone tries to group everyone into a subset of political association
like calling the alt-right Nazis
Posted on 11/25/16 at 11:40 am to TrueTiger
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like calling the alt-right Nazis
Agree 100% with this. It's absurd to think that hundreds of millions of people can fall into basically 8 categories of political belief. Absurd.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 11:43 am to vuvuzela
quote:Yes you do, you are calling for the over throw of a totalitarian regime. Whose sons are you volunteering for that?
I am progressive, but I am not a democrat. I understand the reality of global politics and the needs to intervene from time to time to prevent atrocities. I don't fit your stereotypes and media given definitions, so you are confused. I understand the need for military intervention and respect and appreciate it. I also know that the motivations must be humane and altruistic, not "they are different from us!" Maybe you'll awaken to that some day.
quote:by a forcible regime change, I can tell you really care.
I also know that the motivations must be humane and altruistic,
This post was edited on 11/25/16 at 11:45 am
Posted on 11/25/16 at 11:48 am to ninthward
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by a forcible regime change, I can tell you really care.
Third post of this thread nailed it, how sick of a leader to basically volunteer his citizens for hardship. That's a corrupt regime. Maybe your boy Trump will have the gonads and intellect (haha!) to topple regimes such as this, but I highly doubt it.
By the way, armies of men are a thing of the past, today's warfare doesn't involve large armies sweeping across nations. You must've been in your 40s during the first gulf war?
Posted on 11/25/16 at 11:49 am to gthog61
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Those mother frickers may be like you but they are nothing like me.
and this in a nutshell is why we'll never have peace.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 11:50 am to Strannix
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They're rapists, terrorists, etc.
This is the kind of statement that sank the Democrat Party a couple weeks ago.
This post was edited on 11/25/16 at 11:51 am
Posted on 11/25/16 at 11:51 am to vuvuzela
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They are human beings
Nope
Posted on 11/25/16 at 11:52 am to vuvuzela
quote:Hahah your assumptions.
Third post of this thread nailed it, how sick of a leader to basically volunteer his citizens for hardship. That's a corrupt regime. Maybe your boy Trump will have the gonads and intellect (haha!) to topple regimes such as this, but I highly doubt it.
By the way, armies of men are a thing of the past, today's warfare doesn't involve large armies sweeping across nations. You must've been in your 40s during the first gulf war?
What do you call what we have been doing the the ME the last 15 years? You think thats a conventional war that was fought 70 years ago? OK run with that.
You preach love and peace but want to over throw a government, have you not been watching the news the last 15 years? We have done this several times and what was the outcome? Yet you want to keep doing it. LOL Typical Prog.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 11:53 am to Vols&Shaft83
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Nope
Genetics and science say otherwise. But that's right Global Warming is bull shite too!
Posted on 11/25/16 at 11:54 am to vuvuzela
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But that's right Global Warming is bull shite too!
here we go! hahaha I didnt realize the level of melt until this last post.
This post was edited on 11/25/16 at 11:55 am
Posted on 11/25/16 at 11:58 am to ninthward
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didnt realize the level of melt until this last post.
"Melt"
Man, if this word could only go away so we could have intellectual conversation. But, let me guess "U Mad". What a futile endeavor.... Sheep, sheep everywhere.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 12:00 pm to ninthward
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What do you call what we have been doing the the ME the last 15 years? You think thats a conventional war that was fought 70 years ago? OK run with that.
You preach love and peace but want to over throw a government, have you not been watching the news the last 15 years? We have done this several times and what was the outcome? Yet you want to keep doing it. LOL Typical Prog.
If someone from the left could explain this in a manner that fits their agenda I would pray for Barack to come into my heart.
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