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End Occupational Licensing---a protectionist barrier to work for many
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:45 am
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:45 am
In Louisiana we license florist and barbers and all kinds of occupations that have no real threat to the public.
It is time to end that nonsense and let people have access to those jobs without a state bureaucrat in the way.
Occupational Licensing Reform Gives More Americans a Shot at Success
It is time to end that nonsense and let people have access to those jobs without a state bureaucrat in the way.
Occupational Licensing Reform Gives More Americans a Shot at Success
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:46 am to I B Freeman
I could get behind this for a few fields, especially the two you mentioned
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 9:46 am
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:47 am to I B Freeman
Hemphead has made a couple compelling posts about this.
If one can sit and pass the bar any can't they practice law, even if it's on a conditional basis first (with a mentor or something)?
Although, maybe it's irrational, I wouldn't be able to use a physician who didn't have the credentials and reputation.
Even if we accept that those fields need it, but something like florists? Come on. There is no compelling argument to have a licensing board.
If one can sit and pass the bar any can't they practice law, even if it's on a conditional basis first (with a mentor or something)?
Although, maybe it's irrational, I wouldn't be able to use a physician who didn't have the credentials and reputation.
Even if we accept that those fields need it, but something like florists? Come on. There is no compelling argument to have a licensing board.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 9:52 am
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:48 am to ILeaveAtHalftime
My wife has an aesthetician's license that she keeps on the side and has to pay for it every year...nothing more than a money grab. Not continuing education, nothing...give me your money and here is your piece of paper.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:48 am to ILeaveAtHalftime
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I could get behind this for a few fields, especially the two you mentioned
I'd like it for all licensed fields. At the very most, it should simply be a test that is open to anyone who wishes to take it.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:48 am to I B Freeman
Do you need a license to be a florist or barber, or do employers/customers prefer to do business with licensed individuals?
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:49 am to I B Freeman
What would happen to you if you served drinks without a Louisiana Bartender License?
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:49 am to I B Freeman
quote:Nah, frick you!
In Louisiana we license florist and barbers and all kinds of occupations that have no real threat to the public.
If I get a bad haircut it's a damn tragedy.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:50 am to I B Freeman
I think it's necessary to protect the public: medicine, law, etc. The problem is they overregulate and just become burdensome. One thing about occupational licensing is it appears to protect certain industries from automation.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:51 am to bhtigerfan
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I get a bad haircut it's a damn tragedy
Funny but makes a good point---the state wants to license these people but they take no responsibility for their performance.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:52 am to I B Freeman
Who DV'd me for asking a question?
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:53 am to I B Freeman
quote:I totally agree.
It is time to end that nonsense and let people have access to those jobs without a state bureaucrat in the way.
It takes 4 years working under a licensed plumber to get your license. 4 years to hook up pipes!
Some occupations like electricians I can see. It's very dangerous and mistakes in installation can kill others.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:54 am to I B Freeman
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-the state wants to license these people but they take no responsibility for their performance.
Sounds like a revenue scam by the state.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:54 am to GRTiger
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Who DV'd me for asking a question?
I'm pretty sure the answer is that you have to have one.
LA has some ridiculous amount of hours/training to be a licensed florist. It's absolutely fricking retarded and it keeps the labor/supply pool artifically low, protects existing florists, and raises prices for consumers. This is true for every single other occupation that requires licensure.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:55 am to GRTiger
quote:Guilty.
Who DV'd me for asking a question?
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:56 am to bhtigerfan
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It takes 4 years working under a licensed plumber to get your license. 4 years to hook up pipes! Some occupations like electricians I can see. It's very dangerous and mistakes in installation can kill others.
A bad plumber can wreck your entire house. Let's keep close tabs on them.
I'm not sure what good licensed florists are though other than a revenue stream.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:56 am to bhtigerfan
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Some occupations like electricians I can see. It's very dangerous and mistakes in installation can kill others.
This is true. Which is why I think a display of competency that does not necessarily require official training would be best. One can learn DAMN NEAR ANYTHING outside of a vocational school or university, but we require a piece of paper from a protected monopoly for it to 'really count'.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:57 am to I B Freeman
You can make a good argument for a licensed barber in that they have to sterilize their instruments between customers, they need to know basic safety and first aid if they are going to give you a shave and cut your hair with razor and knives.
I believe that if you let anyone call themselves a barber just by putting up a sign you will run into problems. A license says that they have met certain industry standards and state standards for safety and performance.
You need a driver's license so it makes sense that someone who deals with razors and scissors has a license showing that have met and passed exams about basic sanitation and safety and yes knows how to give a haircut and shave.
I believe that if you let anyone call themselves a barber just by putting up a sign you will run into problems. A license says that they have met certain industry standards and state standards for safety and performance.
You need a driver's license so it makes sense that someone who deals with razors and scissors has a license showing that have met and passed exams about basic sanitation and safety and yes knows how to give a haircut and shave.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:58 am to HempHead
Louisiana is the only state that licenses florist too.
When Jindal got to office this became a minor controversy as there was a lawsuit about it. Jindal got on his soapbox about freedom and stuff and said he was going to stop it. All he did was sign a testing procedure--a small example of his phony commitment to individual freedom and small government.
BTW the state republican chairman for years was Roger Villere, a florist.
When Jindal got to office this became a minor controversy as there was a lawsuit about it. Jindal got on his soapbox about freedom and stuff and said he was going to stop it. All he did was sign a testing procedure--a small example of his phony commitment to individual freedom and small government.
BTW the state republican chairman for years was Roger Villere, a florist.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:58 am to HempHead
quote:But even of there is a line somewhere (physicians, etc.), based on safety, liability, etc., where does a state get the idea florists should be included?
LA has some ridiculous amount of hours/training to be a licensed florist. It's absolutely fricking retarded and it keeps the labor/supply pool artifically low, protects existing florists, and raises prices for consumers. This is true for every single other occupation that requires licensure.
Why not grocery baggers while we're at it?
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 9:59 am
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