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Posted on 10/2/14 at 2:02 pm to NC_Tigah
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It was as predictable as darkness following sunset. Whatever the motivation, the CDC knew it was putting our citizens at risk. No quarantine of potential carriers meant Ebola was coming to the US. It was just a matter of time. I cannot believe Tom Frieden, even if he is an incompetent buffoon of first order, would proceed as he has without directives and/or encouragement to do so. In following that directive, he violated his hippocratic oath.
Was this another act of "intentional" incompetence?
Posted on 10/2/14 at 2:03 pm to WeeWee
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For your information Dr. Kildare, a strain of Ebola has already been shown to infect via airborne spread from pigs to primates in a lab setting.
in a lab and not this strain
What did the lab do to make it become airborne?
Posted on 10/2/14 at 2:06 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:Nothing. They were studying existing strains.
What did the lab do to make it become airborne?
Posted on 10/2/14 at 2:13 pm to WeeWee
quote:Let's try again, shall we?
For your information Dr. Kildare, a strain of Ebola has already been shown to infect via airborne spread from pigs to primates in a lab setting.
in a lab and not this strain
quote:quote:Ebola has already been shown to infect via airborne spread from pigs to primates
there hasn't been a known virus yet to undergo such a drastic mutation that it changes its mode of infection.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 2:34 pm to NC_Tigah
More on Pig Lab Test
Not sure of the source, but more information about the pigs and the Ebola virus. Ebola seems to definitely have much less of an impact on pigs though.
Not sure of the source, but more information about the pigs and the Ebola virus. Ebola seems to definitely have much less of an impact on pigs though.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 2:39 pm to NC_Tigah
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What did the lab do to make it become airborne?
Nothing. They were studying existing strains.
Yes, I suspected his response was sort of a non sequitur.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 2:42 pm to jmarto1
True, it's not airborne YET.
But this disease could mutate to airborne at anytime.
I can't for the life of me understand why all flights to and from west Africa wasn't shut down immediately upon the start of this diseases explosion.
Just a really dumb administration.
But this disease could mutate to airborne at anytime.
I can't for the life of me understand why all flights to and from west Africa wasn't shut down immediately upon the start of this diseases explosion.
Just a really dumb administration.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 3:20 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
It's a JV virus. Nothing to worry about.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 3:26 pm to NC_Tigah
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NC_Tigah
did you read the study and if so was it this one? LINK
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Here we show ZEBOV transmission from pigs to cynomolgus macaques without direct contact.
so pig to monkey (human) okay we knew that but
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Interestingly, transmission between macaques in similar housing conditions was never observed.
monkey to monkey (human to human) not observed.
also from the study
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he design and size of the animal cubicle did not allow to distinguish whether the transmission was by aerosol, small or large droplets in the air, or droplets created during floor cleaning which landed inside the NHP cages (fomites).
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We have also never observed transmission of EBOV from infected to naive macaques, including in an experiment employing the same cage setting as in the current study,
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although pigs can generate infectious short range large aerosol droplets more efficiently then other species1
so pigs can make short range aerosol droplets that infect other species but the monkeys even when they were in the same cage did not pass it on.
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NC_Tigah
Just curious do you have any background in medicine or viral research? This is no way a callout or shot, I am just curious.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 3:30 pm to WeeWee
quote:Yes.
Just curious do you have any background in medicine or viral research?
Posted on 10/2/14 at 3:37 pm to NC_Tigah
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Just curious do you have any background in medicine or viral research?
Yes.
ok just wondering
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