Started By
Message

re: Ds and Rs nominees-latest Quinnipiac poll

Posted on 7/12/14 at 11:40 pm to
Posted by OleWar
Troy H. Middleton Library
Member since Mar 2008
5828 posts
Posted on 7/12/14 at 11:40 pm to
quote:

First, try to bring the country together, and not pull us further apart


It is hard for me to think of any President doing anything directly policy wise in our history to accomplish this. Usually this takes some sort of national tragedy created by an external actor.

quote:

Then there is a laundry list--the economy, immigration reform, education, the costs of a college education, better training for technical jobs, assisting DoD in creating a modern fighting force and cutting a way the needless spending there.


And is there some specific law or act that you are keen on, or is there some grand compromise that you envision. These seem like broad issues.

ETA

quote:

-The border get secured.
-Comprehensive immigration reform.
-A balanced budget.
-A reduction in the federal workforce.
-A reduction in corporate welfare.
-A reduction in the public welfare roles.
-More programs left to the states, when possible.
-A more special forces/intelligence role in the "War on Terror".
-We need to make things in America, again. We need to bring manufacturing back home. I'd like to see a push to bring our industrial cities back.


That is a pretty specific list with the exception of comprehensive immigration reform- Pretty sure wfeliciana and Hillary would not wan't to get any of that done.
This post was edited on 7/12/14 at 11:50 pm
Posted by wfeliciana
Member since Oct 2013
4504 posts
Posted on 7/12/14 at 11:43 pm to
quote:

Get real. We are a fricking joke to the rest of the world.



Man, when Bush left the world hated us. Hillary helped change that. You really think she agreed with everything the President decided in foreign policy? If you do then you haven't read much about the differences.
Posted by wfeliciana
Member since Oct 2013
4504 posts
Posted on 7/12/14 at 11:48 pm to
quote:

It is hard for me to think of any President doing anything directly policy wise in our history to accomplish this. Usually this takes some sort of national tragedy created by an external actor.


Oh I agree, you can't make all the disagreements go away. But you can develop an atmosphere of cooperation knowing that on some things the parties will differ. I think she would have handled Congress very differently than the current President.

quote:

And is there some specific law or act that you are keen on, or is there some grand compromise that you envision. These seem like broad issues.


They are broad issues that I listed and Smalls gave some that were more specific.
Posted by Smalls
Southern California
Member since Jul 2009
10245 posts
Posted on 7/12/14 at 11:53 pm to
quote:

I think that many Conservatives were getting pretty fed up with GWB by the end of his tenure, but the response to the "moderate" was to escort someone (arguably) further left into the GOP campaign in 2008. That was the last straw that pushed a lot of Conservatives over the edge, especially since the result was so disastrous to the country (as many Conservatives believed).

The situation was further exasperated in 2012 with Romney, who was also not a Conservative, getting the nod to go up against Obama. In spite of Obama's liberal first term, he still managed to beat Romney, who was very lackluster and failed to get the GOP base motivated to vote.

And this goes back to my original point: the GOP, by trying to appear more moderate, is actually doing itself more harm. Voters already know that Democrats own the social and economic liberal platforms. By adopting the same platforms, the GOP is only going to lose its base, while those who are sympathetic to the liberal ideals have no reason to stray from the tried-and-true liberal Democrats who have consistently maintained those positions.

What we have here are two fundamental philosophies about government: bigger and smaller. Republicans who jump on the "bigger" train are hailed by the liberals as being open-minded while those who hold to the smaller government position are ridiculed as "fringe" and "extreme". And with those buzz words, the Conservatives are marginalized (for no good reason), because a moderate Republican isn't much of a change to a liberal Democrat. At least an "extremist" Conservative (Republican or Tea Party Libertarian) would offer something different for the voters to consider, and I'd rather a candidate lose based on their principles than win acting like a Democrat. But that's just my opinion.


I appreciate your insight.
Posted by wfeliciana
Member since Oct 2013
4504 posts
Posted on 7/12/14 at 11:59 pm to
quote:

That is a pretty specific list with the exception of comprehensive immigration reform- Pretty sure wfeliciana and Hillary would not wan't to get any of that done.



Then you would be wrong.
first pageprev pagePage 5 of 5Next pagelast page
refresh

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram