- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Doesn't Trump have Constitutional authority
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:21 pm to dunkelman
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:21 pm to dunkelman
Maybe that would've worked had he pardoned Flynn quickly, but Trump's own DAG, Rosenstein, named a special prosecutor over this matter and it's ongoing (and Federal special prosecutions average longer than 3 years). He could technically shut that down too like Nixon did in the Saturday Night Massacre, but despite Nixon's "when the President does it, it's not illegal" approach to executive power, it only made things worse for him with regard to pressure on Congress to impeach.
Bush, on the other hand, pardoned the Iran Contra 6 at the last minute. I'd also argue that that was also an abuse of power too, but it's clear that what amounts to an impeachable abuse of power as well as other "high crimes and misdemeanors" are ultimately political.
What's a crime for the president comes down to Congressional votes.
Bush, on the other hand, pardoned the Iran Contra 6 at the last minute. I'd also argue that that was also an abuse of power too, but it's clear that what amounts to an impeachable abuse of power as well as other "high crimes and misdemeanors" are ultimately political.
What's a crime for the president comes down to Congressional votes.
0
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:22 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
He has the authority to pardon Flynn, but it would be considered an obstruction of justice
That is false.
quote:
What's a crime for the president comes down to Congressional votes.
This is true.
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:23 pm to mmcgrath
OK. Cite me to statute or case that says that. This is how criminal law works. The legislature passes a law making specific acts crimes. It's a crime based upon the words of a statute not me cause McGrath says so. So quote the law or STFU.
Even if there was such a law, would not that law be trumped, so to speak, by the constitutional power to issue pardons?
Even if there was such a law, would not that law be trumped, so to speak, by the constitutional power to issue pardons?
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:28 pm to mmcgrath
So if I tell a cop "I sure hope you don't give my former employee a speeding ticket," I have obstructed justice? Look at the words of the statute so you won't make stupid posts.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:32 pm to dunkelman
quote:
Whoever willfully endeavors by means of bribery to obstruct, delay, or prevent the communication of information relating to a violation of any criminal statute of the United States by any person to a criminal investigator
ETA: also:
quote:
Whoever knowingly uses intimidation, threatens, or corruptly persuades another person, or attempts to do so, or engages in misleading conduct toward another person, with intent to—
(1) influence, delay, or prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding;
(2) cause or induce any person to—
(A) withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:33 pm to dunkelman
quote:No. You obviously aren't offering a bribe or abusing power.
So if I tell a cop "I sure hope you don't give my former employee a speeding ticket," I have obstructed justice? Look at the words of the statute so you won't make stupid posts.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:44 pm to dunkelman
quote:
Then why wasn't Ford impeached for pardoning Nixon?
He wasn't impeached, but it sure as hell contributed to his defeat in 1976.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 3:17 am to dunkelman
quote:
So if I tell a cop "I sure hope you don't give my former employee a speeding ticket," I have obstructed justice? Look at the words of the statute so you won't make stupid posts.
Do you have the authority and power to fire the cop if they don't do what you want?
Page 2 of 2
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News