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Doesn't the Trump, Jr. meeting prove that the Trump campaign WAS NOT "colluding" ....

Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:18 am
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:18 am
with the Russians?

If Trump was colluding with the Russians then he would have had someone on the inside who he could have discussed this woman with and could have easily have figured out that this woman was not working on behalf of the Russian government and had nothing to offer with respect to "dirt" on sHitlary. This would have all been done before any meeting.

I mean, if you are seriously colluding with the Russians, wouldn't Trump had called his "point man" and asked who this woman is and why is she calling "outside the chain of command"?
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 11:20 am
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56553 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:27 am to
This question is the difference between the majority of conservatives vs. the majority of liberals.

This is a logical question. And, every time it is posed, the liberals run from it because they truly didn't realize it and because they think they are winning on the issue anyway.

Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24851 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:30 am to
That takes a couple layers of thought.

The "SQUIRREL!" Approach Is easier..
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:31 am to
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:33 am to
Maybe. So that just leaves Jr being stupid and gullible as hell, and a bald faced liar.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99086 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:35 am to
quote:

So that just leaves Jr being stupid and gullible as hell, and a bald faced liar.


If being stupid, gullible, and/or a liar was a crime, we'd have to lock up all Liberals and most Conservatives.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33907 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:36 am to
Potentially conspiracy to collude, which seems like a massive stretch. The only thing I've heard that possibly has any weight to it was on NPR this morning when they were saying it might be a foreign campaign contribution. Frankly I'd love to see that can of worms opened.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83583 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:37 am to
quote:

If Trump was colluding with the Russians then he would have had someone on the inside who he could have discussed this woman with and could have easily have figured out that this woman was not working on behalf of the Russian government and had nothing to offer with respect to "dirt" on sHitlary. This would have all been done before any meeting.

I mean, if you are seriously colluding with the Russians, wouldn't Trump had called his "point man" and asked who this woman is and why is she calling "outside the chain of command"?




desperation?
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:39 am to
quote:

If Trump was colluding with the Russians then he would have had someone on the inside
you mean like his presidential campaign manager or something?

because, yes, Paul Manafort was also at the meeting, along with Jared Kushner.

great job at disproving your own point.
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 11:40 am
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21898 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:41 am to
quote:

Doesn't the Trump, Jr. meeting prove that the Trump campaign WAS NOT "colluding" ....


No, it proves they were.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23196 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:41 am to
quote:



No, it proves they were.


How does someone not colluding prove they were colluding?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52805 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:42 am to
quote:



No, it proves they were.



What was the quid pro quo?
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:43 am to
quote:

If Trump was colluding with the Russians then he would have had someone on the inside who he could have discussed this woman with and could have easily have figured out that this woman was not working on behalf of the Russian government and had nothing to offer with respect to "dirt" on sHitlary. This would have all been done before any meeting.
Reasoning backwards from the assumption that Trump always does things competently is pretty fraught.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:48 am to
quote:

quote:
If Trump was colluding with the Russians then he would have had someone on the inside

you mean like his presidential campaign manager or something?

because, yes, Paul Manafort was also at the meeting, along with Jared Kushner.

great job at disproving your own point.


NO, you f*cking moron. I CLEARLY meant SOMEONE ON THE INSIDE OF THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT -- IDIOT!

According to all the Libtards, Putin was running this show entirely.

If someone with the Russian government (as the libtards are claiming this woman was) e-mails out of the blue claiming to have dirt on sHitlary, then why didn't Trump (or Manafort) just give Vlad a call and ask why is this woman going outside the "chain of command" of collusion?


You seriously can't be THIS F*CKING STUPID.
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 11:49 am
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21898 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:48 am to
quote:

What was the quid pro quo?


Sanctions relief, or money to Kushner/Trump companies.

That's why financial crimes are getting involved in Mueller's investigation.

Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:52 am to
quote:

Sanctions relief, or money to Kushner/Trump companies.


LINK?

The e-mails show what this was all about.

So, either provide a link or admit that you are just making it up as you are clearly suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome and you are hoping that any false allegation will stick.


And, I don't recall you being full with such faux-self-righteous indignation when it was revealed that sHitlary actually sold her office as SoS in exchange for hundreds of millions of dollars from the Russians.

THAT has been proven. And, yet, you still walked into a voting booth and pulled the lever for the most vile, evil, piece of pure f*cking CRIMINAL filth to ever come down the political pike.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:53 am to
So you're allowed your original hypothetical, but this other poster is not? Seems legit.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42633 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:54 am to
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foreign campaign contribution. Frankly I'd love to see that can of worms opened.



Wouldn't that be Christmas in July???
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42633 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:56 am to
quote:

You seriously can't be THIS F*CKING STUPID.


Nope - they just assume the position - I is part of their job description.

Hard to get good work these days.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

original hypothetical


The OP isn't a hypothetical...it was a question...maybe poorly worded...

Does the meeting prove the campaign was NOT colluding?
No, it does not PROVE, but it is also "NOT COLLUDING"
So, we are still up to zero evidence of collusion between the campaign and Russian government.

We do however have tons of quid pro quo evidence in the Hillary campaign...but no one really cares about that fat cankled shitstained bitch.
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