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Does anyone understand foreign affairs better than Henry Kissinger?
Posted on 12/24/16 at 9:42 am
Posted on 12/24/16 at 9:42 am
Say what you will about the man's history but do not deny his understanding of international issues.
LINK
Hopefully he has groomed successors with his same understanding.
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Hopefully he has groomed successors with his same understanding.
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But seasoned Kissinger watchers say it’s vintage behavior for a foreign policy realist who has cozied up to all sorts of kings and presidents for decades. And in fact, Trump may wind up an ideal vessel for Kissinger -- the architect of detente with the Soviets in the 1970s -- to realize his longstanding goal of warmer ties between the two Cold War adversaries.
For years, Kissinger has argued that promoting a greater balance of power between the U.S. and Russia would improve global stability. But skeptics fear this approach will sacrifice other values and reward bad behavior by the Kremlin, including its alleged election meddling, its invasion of Ukraine and its support for Syrian dictator Bashar Assad. There’s also the question of how Kissinger himself would personally benefit from a new reset with Russia: Aside from the reputational boost of having easy access to two major world leaders, the former secretary of state's secretive consulting firm, Kissinger Associates Inc., could get a bump in business.
“I think Kissinger is preparing a diplomatic offensive,” said Marcel H. Van Herpen, a Russia specialist and Putin critic who directs the Cicero Foundation, a Dutch think tank. “He’s a realist. The most important thing for him is international equilibrium, and there’s no talk of human rights or democracy.”
Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:11 am to I B Freeman
the cowardly down voter who cannot argue with the OP and really doesn't know why he down voted the OP but does know the liberals won't like it if he acknowledges Kissinger's talents.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:18 am to I B Freeman
I didn't down vote ya, IB. But don't let it bug you. There's a guy here who will down vote me if I say 'Hello.'
Re: Kissinger. Every time I hear him talk it reminds me of Edward Teller:
He was a Hungarian-Jewish physicist and had the slow heavy accent of Henry Kissinger. Teller was often on TV during the Cold War making the libs crazy by saying 'the more nuclear weapons we have, the less the likelihood of war.' He was a big opponent of disarmament.
Re: Kissinger. Every time I hear him talk it reminds me of Edward Teller:
He was a Hungarian-Jewish physicist and had the slow heavy accent of Henry Kissinger. Teller was often on TV during the Cold War making the libs crazy by saying 'the more nuclear weapons we have, the less the likelihood of war.' He was a big opponent of disarmament.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:25 am to I B Freeman
Condi Rice has the chops to match up with Kissinger. Too bad she's tainted goods. However, Kissinger is a massively failed political operative who totally botched Vietnam, capitulated in the Paris accords and who's decisions ultimately brought defeat upon South Vietnam by backstabbing our S Vietnam friends, and because he was too afraid to use the power of the United States because, unlike Reagan sixteen years later they (he and Nixon) were still afraid of Russia and trying hard to achieve detente.
Granted, the Cold War was very frigid, but ultimately, his own arrogance lacked balls.
Granted, the Cold War was very frigid, but ultimately, his own arrogance lacked balls.
This post was edited on 12/24/16 at 10:25 am
Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:35 am to I B Freeman
Kissinger is a piece of shite. He has no talent and achieved nothing in his far too long time in that position. Nothing you posted demonstrated a single reason to like or admire him.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:40 am to MrCarton
Looking like that, he talked his way into Jill St. John's bed. Nuff said
Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:43 am to HubbaBubba
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Kissinger is a massively failed political operative who totally botched Vietnam, capitulated in the Paris accords and who's decisions ultimately brought defeat upon South Vietnam by backstabbing our S Vietnam friends
that is not true at all. Congress cut military aid to S Vietnam in 1974. LINK
Our "friends" as you call them were quite corrupt and had little domestic support. LINK
Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:45 am to I B Freeman
No one understands it better than HK, but no one sells us out more than him either. He's a cuck multiculturalism globalist pos.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:51 am to airfernando
I had a lot of distrust of Kissinger when he said his favorite sport was soccer.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:53 am to Sun God
Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:55 am to airfernando
Kissinger speaks pragmatically about "world order" but I don't think you will find any hints in his policies that he is globalist that wants some one world government or some extra power for the UN.
We do have a different world order than we had 25 years ago. No question about that.
Read this exert from a column Kissinger wrote in the WSJ:
We do have a different world order than we had 25 years ago. No question about that.
Read this exert from a column Kissinger wrote in the WSJ:
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For the U.S., this will require thinking on two seemingly contradictory levels. The celebration of universal principles needs to be paired with recognition of the reality of other regions' histories, cultures and views of their security. Even as the lessons of challenging decades are examined, the affirmation of America's exceptional nature must be sustained. History offers no respite to countries that set aside their sense of identity in favor of a seemingly less arduous course. But nor does it assure success for the most elevated convictions in the absence of a comprehensive geopolitical strategy.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 11:02 am to I B Freeman
Posted on 12/24/16 at 11:02 am to I B Freeman
When he speaks of globalization he speaks in terms of economics:
I have never heard him advocating world government or abandonment of sovereignty.
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Globalization views the world as one market in which the most efficient and competitive will prosper. It accepts — and even welcomes — the fact that the free market will relentlessly sift the efficient from the inefficient, even at the cost of economic and social dislocation.
But the extreme versions of globalization tend to neglect the mismatch between the world’s political and economic systems. Unlike economics, politics divides the world into national units. And while political leaders may accept a certain degree of suffering for the sake of growth in their economies, they cannot survive as advocates of near-permanent austerity — especially if their policies can be presented as imposed from abroad.
I have never heard him advocating world government or abandonment of sovereignty.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 11:34 am to I B Freeman
His negotiations to end the Vietnam war worked out pretty well for the North Vietnamese.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 12:16 pm to I B Freeman
You really should just continue to rail at movie production tax credits. Suits you better.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 1:07 pm to I B Freeman
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I have never heard him advocating world government or abandonment of sovereignty.
Kissinger is the ultimate embodiment of the state. He believes in the inevitability of a grand and universal hegemon, and desires for that hegemony to be a coalition of willing states. he opposes economic freedom and promotes total war, brush fire war, unconventional war, and economic war over free trade and individual economic cooperation. He is the statist spokesman for the world and his ideas are deadly and counter to prosperity for Americans.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 1:16 pm to I B Freeman
I don't know if he's currently at the top of his game, but as far as knowledgeable is concerned, I really can't think of anyone who comes close to him.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 1:17 pm to OMLandshark
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I don't know if he's currently at the top of his game, but as far as knowledgeable is concerned, I really can't think of anyone who comes close to him.
He is extremely intelligent and knowledgeable. there is zero question about that. His talents as a diplomat are almost impossible to identify.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 2:07 pm to MrCarton
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Kissinger is the ultimate embodiment of the state. He believes in the inevitability of a grand and universal hegemon, and desires for that hegemony to be a coalition of willing states. he opposes economic freedom and promotes total war, brush fire war, unconventional war, and economic war over free trade and individual economic cooperation. He is the statist spokesman for the world and his ideas are deadly and counter to prosperity for Americans
I would like some link to that.
One of his most controversial acts was to assist Pinochet in the overthrow of the socialist so that capitalism would prosper in Chile. "The Chilean Miracle" LINK
His actions were for the pragmatic benefit of the USA. What did he do that was counter to "prosperity for Americans"?
What do you think of this quote?
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History offers no respite to countries that set aside their sense of identity in favor of a seemingly less arduous course
Sounds to me like sense of identity is pretty important in his mind.
This post was edited on 12/24/16 at 2:10 pm
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