Does anybody believe in the 3rd secret of Fatima?

Most speculation has always been that it is related to the global rise of Islam.

I believe in Founder's Breakfast Stout, Frank Zappa, and David Cronenberg films.

100%

The third secret is “ the general apostasy of the Catholic Church”

It has already happened and is still on going.

But, do you believe that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone?

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The third secret is “ the general apostasy of the Catholic Church”

It has already happened and is still on going.

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Yes, the apostasy began with Vat2 and the sex abuses, corruption & schemes within the Vatican walls. I think this is only a part of it.

Russia & communism spreading and war. The Chastisement could be nukes used? The current Pope is questionable but the Orthodox hierarchy & the Pope is suppose to consecrate Russia. It is very interesting being that Putin converted. If Putin converted to the Christian Russian Orthodox Church-I wonder when?

Also something about a small council to meet like Vat2 or Vat2?

I find Oliver Stone's JFK movies to be fascinating. We need an entire thread for JFK's assassination.

Garabandal is also fascinating and ties in. The cross in the sky and you will see your spiritual soul as if Padre Pio were there reading it.

I can see a huge cross in the sky and dropping to knees. Because of the soul searching before God as if you were dying. It will be difficult for people to doubt or claim it is a trick. Maybe the prog filth will say it is Mother Earth Sophia warning of global warming and they post the rainbow flag and think nothing of pedophilia and bestiality? Demons gonna demon.

I can also see people going on facebook & twitter and saying, 'hey did you see the cross that looks like the Divine Mercy Jesus photo?' & then they post what they ate for dinner.

No.

Just read the Bible. I don't trust anything else.

I think the current Pope has to do this. No matter his marxist apostasy ties. Also the Russian Orthodox leader and Pope disagreed about Putin's Ukraine war and what he was doing. The Russian Orthodox is said to be also consecrating. I have to run now, anybody see the Russians doing consecration as well--- or Putin's conversion in the news?

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A sign in St. Peter's Square calls for the consecration of Russia and Ukraine to Mary, before the start of Pope Francis' Angelus at the Vatican March 13, 2022. The Vatican said Pope Francis will consecrate Russia and Ukraine to the Immaculate Heart of Mary March 25. (CNS photo/Paul Haring)

Pope to consecrate Russia, Ukraine to Mary

March 16, 2022
By Catholic News Service
Catholic News Service

Filed Under: Crisis in Ukraine, Feature, News, Vatican, World News
En Español

VATICAN CITY (CNS) — Pope Francis will consecrate Russia and Ukraine to the Immaculate Heart of Mary during a penitential prayer service in St. Peter’s Basilica March 25, the Vatican said.

On the same day, the Vatican said, Cardinal Konrad Krajewski, the papal almoner, will carry out a similar consecration at the Shrine of Our Lady of Fatima in Portugal.

According to the Vatican’s translation of the messages of Fatima, when Mary appeared to the three shepherd children in Fatima in 1917, she told them, “God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart. If what I say to you is done, many souls will be saved, and there will be peace.”

Warning of “war, famine, and persecutions of the church and of the Holy Father,” Mary told the children, “to prevent this, I shall come to ask for the consecration of Russia to my Immaculate Heart.”

The Eastern- and Latin-rite Catholic bishops of Ukraine had been asking Pope Francis for the consecration.

Archbishop Sviatoslav Shevchuk of Kyiv-Halych, head of the Eastern-rite Ukrainian Catholic Church, said March 16, “Ukrainian Catholics have been asking for this act since the beginning of Russian aggression in 2014 (in Crimea and Eastern Ukraine) as urgently needed to avoid the worsening of the war and the dangers coming from Russia.”

“With the invasion of Russia on a massive scale,” in late February, he said, “prayers to do this came from all parts of the world from our faithful.”

The country’s Latin-rite bishops published their appeal to Pope Francis March 2, telling him that their priests, religious and laity all asked that he “consecrate our motherland and Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary.”

Some groups have continued to argue that Mary’s wish at Fatima was never fulfilled or that it was never done properly because the pope consecrated the world and not “Russia.” The Vatican, however, has insisted St. John Paul II did so in 1984 when he led the world’s bishops in the consecration of Russia and the world. The late Sister Lucia dos Santos, the last surviving visionary and the one who received the instructions for the consecration, had said that it was properly performed.

At his Sunday recitations of the Angelus since Russia invaded Ukraine Feb. 24, people have been showing up in St. Peter’s Square with signs asking the pope for the consecration of Russia or of Russia and Ukraine to Mary.

The Fatima message promised: “If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the church. The good will be martyred; the Holy Father will have much to suffer; various nations will be annihilated.”

But, the message continued: “In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me, and she shall be converted, and a period of peace will be granted to the world.”

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