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Do I have to change my name because of 'muh racist southern monuments'?

Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:12 am
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10985 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:12 am
If my name derives directly from the naming lineage of a southern general, do I have to change it so as not to offend?

Not talking about surnames or folks who are descendants of such historical figures, just those who have a naming tradition in their family that was originally inspired by those folks' names.

Any Albert Sidneys, or Robert Edwards, or Pierre Gustave Toutants, or Edmund Kirbys, or Edward Porters, or Richard Lees, or William Henrys, or the like out there that are ready to change their names?

Heck, there might even be a John Bel(l) or two floating around...

Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:12 am to
No one GAF about your name, clown.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32482 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:13 am to
Good god
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:14 am to
LOOK AT ME!!! LOOK AT ME!!!
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10985 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:21 am to
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No one GAF about your name, clown.
So no one gives a frick about Robert E. Lee's name?

Give me your conclusion on this...because a name is an identifier as an image (or statue) is an identifier, is it not?

If a person's name were 'Robert E. Lee Smith', for example, what do ya figure the first thing comes to mind is, huh?

Let's hear the argument.
Posted by AnonymousTiger
Franklin, TN
Member since Jan 2012
4863 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:21 am to
If your last name is Lynch, just don't donate any land/money to an organization in hopes of getting your name on the building.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32482 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:22 am to
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If a person's name were 'Robert E. Lee Smith', for example, what do ya figure the first thing comes to mind is, huh?



That his parents gave him a stupid name.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10985 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:25 am to
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If your last name is Lynch
Specifically omitted surnames from my premise. Besides, lynch is a verb not an homage to a confederate general...
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10985 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:26 am to
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That his parents gave him a stupid name.
Says you, Dick...
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:27 am to
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If my name derives directly from the naming lineage of a southern general, do I have to change it so as not to offend?


No. Just a Scarlett letter that you're descended from traiterous losers.
Posted by jptiger2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
9616 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:29 am to
My last name was Hitler...












I had it changed
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27881 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:30 am to
This "muh" bullshite has run its course and then some.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:30 am to
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No one GAF about your name, clown.


Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:30 am to
Not traitorous when fighting for their own country
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10985 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:31 am to
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Just a Scarlett letter that you're descended from traiterous losers
Specifically retracted from the premise those who may be descendents in my original post.

That said, are you saying a 'scarlet letter' is sufficient penance for having a politically incorrect name?
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27104 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:33 am to
Hey look at me everybody, I think I'm making a point, but I look like a jackass.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10985 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:34 am to
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My last name was Hitler... I had it changed

Again, my original post specifically set aside surnames and ancestry.

But, OK, were you compelled to change it by political coercion?
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10985 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:35 am to
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This "muh" bullshite has run its course and then some.
Simple short hand that you got, though...
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83586 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:35 am to
This is jumping too far down the slope.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10985 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:46 am to
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This is jumping too far down the slope.

Is it really?

Sure there's a few yuck-yucks but the question is really about whether a medium actually conveys a specific message.

Does a statue of Robert E. Lee convey a specific message (i.e., one message -specific)?

Further, is that message passed through the medium of sculpture representative of a particular person's identity, thus linking that particular person to the specific message?

And is not a name (through the media of language and writing) representative of a particular person (their identity)?

Tearing down a statue is tantamount to tearing down a name so why wouldn't or couldn't someone be 'torn down' on the basis of their name and a specific message associated with it or foisted upon it?
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 11:47 am
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