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Do dems not understand that the rural poor want jobs, not government cheese?
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:45 pm
So, I see many internet memes and some city elites on my facebook feed mocking the people of west virginia and other such areas for their republican support, and now mocking them for taking healthcare away and other things in trump's budget, etc.
Maybe, just maybe, these millions of people want JOBS and an OPPORTUNITY to contribute to the national product. Many are ashamed and upset that their economic lifestyles have been robbed from them.
Democrats basically think what works for the politically in places like gary, IN, New Orleans, jackson, etc aka just giving these people welfare and be done with it....will work in other areas with different cultures.
Putting people on the dole and telling them you saved their lifestyle is a farce, and they see it as that.
You offer them ways to be an acting, producing human being, not a vegetable.
Maybe, just maybe, these millions of people want JOBS and an OPPORTUNITY to contribute to the national product. Many are ashamed and upset that their economic lifestyles have been robbed from them.
Democrats basically think what works for the politically in places like gary, IN, New Orleans, jackson, etc aka just giving these people welfare and be done with it....will work in other areas with different cultures.
Putting people on the dole and telling them you saved their lifestyle is a farce, and they see it as that.
You offer them ways to be an acting, producing human being, not a vegetable.
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:47 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Democrats basically think what works for the politically in places like gary, IN, New Orleans, jackson, etc aka just giving these people welfare and be done with it....
That's what the Democrats WANT--people dependent on the government dole (in exchange for votes).
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:48 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Nah, they want government cheese too.
Do dems not understand that the rural poor want jobs, not government cheese?
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:48 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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people of west virginia and other such areas for their republican support
Progressive leaning policies helped destroy the coal industry that drove a significant portion of the economy in West Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Ohio. Hillary's choice words on coal was played in that are over and over again leading up to the election.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:49 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Rural folks seem pretty happy with subsidies. A complete conservative free market approach would sodomize rural communities. The only thing that can protect them outside of direct entitlements is protectionism. Just another form of government cheese.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:50 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Nah, they want government cheese too.
Government cheese will keep you fed, but the taste is very underwhelming and not something all people want to have for the rest for their lives.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:51 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Since you brought up West Virginia why is it in such bad shape? It's been deep red for a long long time. You'd think that Republican economic policies would have that state booming to the point that one industry becoming obsolete wouldn't drag the entire state into the toilet.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:52 pm to PsychTiger
quote:I didn't say it was good, I said they wanted it. And they do. The premise of this thread is about as laughable as it gets. Rural folks have depended drastically on government cheese for decades.
Government cheese will keep you fed, but the taste is very underwhelming and not something all people want to have for the rest for their lives.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:53 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Democrats aren't stopping them from adjusting to an ever changing world with new demands. No political entity can get you a job, only you can. Even if we bring thousands of plants to the rural areas, they still wouldn't get jobs because they are unqualified for the majority of high paying jobs today. Barrack Obama didn't make me qualified for my job, I did. By going out and getting certifications and licenses. I acquired skills to better myself and make myself more marketable. Sounds like some of the baws in these rural areas would benefit by getting off their tail and stop waiting on some one to bring them a job and go out and acquire a much needed skill.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:54 pm to Haughton99
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It's been deep red for a long long time. You'd think that Republican economic policies would have that state booming to the point that one industry becoming obsolete wouldn't drag the entire state into the toilet.
Ummm, west virginia was a blue state up until the year 2000. Furthermore, democrats have owned the governorship and statehouse there in very recent history.
It's afflicted with the same disease that afflicted detroit. Too dependent on one trade.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:54 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Them wanting these things doesn't mean they exist.
Maybe, just maybe, these millions of people want JOBS and an OPPORTUNITY to contribute to the national product.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:55 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Maybe they should move to where the jobs are. Those people have to take some personal accountability for their lives. If there are no jobs where you live then you probably shouldn't be living there.
Driven people move from city to city all the time chasing better opportunities. What makes these people feel entitled that a job should have to show up on their door step. Jobs are available in almost all of the major population centers.
Half of Nashville is filled with former Alabama residents.
Driven people move from city to city all the time chasing better opportunities. What makes these people feel entitled that a job should have to show up on their door step. Jobs are available in almost all of the major population centers.
Half of Nashville is filled with former Alabama residents.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:55 pm to PsychTiger
quote:Isn't this where you conservatives tell people to man up and get marketable? Or move to a different area where you can get a job. Sorry.
Government cheese will keep you fed, but the taste is very underwhelming and not something all people want to have for the rest for their lives
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:56 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Ugh, NO
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:57 pm to Iosh
quote:You know, I was watching a theguardian documentary about west virginia and trump and they were in this town in southern WV and there were massive empty lots, and the sister of the democratic house candidate for that district pointed and said, "why can't google or amazon come here?". Are these people worth less than punjab programmers?
Them wanting these things doesn't mean they exist.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:58 pm to Tigerdev
quote:You don't get it. The rural point DON'T WANT government cheese. Rather, they want the GOVERNMENT to CREATE jobs for them.
Isn't this where you conservatives tell people to man up and get marketable? Or move to a different area where you can get a job. Sorry.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:59 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I'm not a race baiter by nature
But this post is blatantly a "poor white Trump voters who don't work aren't the same as poor black voters who don't work" appeal.
But this post is blatantly a "poor white Trump voters who don't work aren't the same as poor black voters who don't work" appeal.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 2:00 pm to BhamDore
quote:Their economic way of life was largely taken from them by government policy. When the government takes away your coal mining job because regulations increase marginal costs to levels where you simply cannot produce much at the market price for energy sources, well, then the govenrment has a duty to pay to reskill, retrain, and re-educate you for another job.
Maybe they should move to where the jobs are. Those people have to take some personal accountability for their lives. If there are no jobs where you live then you probably shouldn't be living there.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 3/21/17 at 2:06 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Yes. That's a hard truth no one will say. But the disparity between the UE and U6 is mostly due to the fact that there's a big skill mismatch among those out of the labor force. And if they are unable or unwilling to retrain themselves, then the government is gonna step in. The only question is to what extent we should try to fool people about what's actually happening. You can either just hand them checks, or you can engage in complex, indirect schemes to artificially boost demand and give people the equivalent of those WPA hole-digging jobs. Some might say that the second option is necessary to get past our country's particular Protestant work ethic. But that kind of dishonesty has corrosive effects over the long term, which we're seeing now.
Are these people worth less than punjab programmers?
Posted on 3/21/17 at 2:07 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:The government didn't take away those coal mining jobs. Natural gas did.
When the government takes away your coal mining job because regulations increase marginal costs to levels where you simply cannot produce much at the market price for energy sources
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