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re: Distraught Special Ops because of Syria pull out
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:23 am to 56lsu
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:23 am to 56lsu
I am not doubting an operator's attachment to his assignment (and the people involved as a result), but that is not how foreign policy is dictated, nor is it how it should be.
ETA: It is still utterly stupid and fallacious to suggest that I am not allowed to question an opinion, simply because I have not had the exact same experience. I really can't describe how moronic that logic is.
ETA: It is still utterly stupid and fallacious to suggest that I am not allowed to question an opinion, simply because I have not had the exact same experience. I really can't describe how moronic that logic is.
This post was edited on 10/10/19 at 9:25 am
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Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:23 am to 56lsu
quote:Cool so you and I can have an opinion, others not so much.
after serving for 22 years I guess I can.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:24 am to Lima Whiskey
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And for the soldiers, they’re walking away from people they made a commitment to. Which is a stain on their honor. But this was always going to happen.
an endless, never ending commitment?
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:25 am to udtiger
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Those SpecOps guys get very attached to their local assets and are concerned about their well-being.
Then they can go to work for Blackwater or some similar outfit.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:25 am to Jbird
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:26 am to 56lsu
Honest question. What are we supposed to do, stay forever? We can't do that. At some point the Kurds have to do it on their own. Nothing wrong with arming them but we can't have a permanent presence.
Same thing in Afghanistan. Either there has to be some entity there that can stand on its' own without us being there to prop them up, or we might as well pull out. It's just common sense.
Same thing in Afghanistan. Either there has to be some entity there that can stand on its' own without us being there to prop them up, or we might as well pull out. It's just common sense.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:26 am to Covingtontiger77
#BoycottFoxNews
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:26 am to 56lsu
So under your thinking, you have never been President therefore you need to shut your cock holster.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:27 am to loweralabamatrojan
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I just question the wisdom of allowing Erdogan free reign in Syria.
"Allowing"?
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:28 am to Covingtontiger77
Ain’t no soldier unhappy about coming home.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:29 am to 56lsu
You never have been president so you can’t question Trump.
This post was edited on 10/10/19 at 9:31 am
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:30 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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Then they can go to work for Blackwater or some similar outfit
This x1000
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:30 am to Covingtontiger77
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So wait now the military wants to be used as the world’s policeman?
Yes. I have spoken to many who seem to have no problem with this. I no longer care as much about this issue as a result.
If a majority US military personnel are not opposed to being used as the Global Police Force, if a majority of Veterans are not opposed to it, I myself will soften my own opposition.
I don't see that our Wounded Warriors are provided with the proper treatment by the US FedGov, and, by being the Global Police Force, we are making more and more of them every day, BUT, that doesn't seem to change the paradigm.
I simply do not see a ground-swell of support among Vets for ending the US military's role as World Police.
One day there are going to be a bunch of angry Veterans standing in line behind illegal aliens for medical care. If I am asked "how could this happen?" I'll answer -- we did this to ourselves. This is a self-inflicted wound.
This post was edited on 10/10/19 at 9:32 am
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:31 am to Lima Whiskey
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Leaving is the right thing. We should never have been there in the first place. In some ways were just paying the inevitable price for our foolishness.
Wait till we pull out of Afghanistan. It will fall like a house of cards and will revert to pre-9-11 status hopefully minus al-Qaeda
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:33 am to udtiger
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Those SpecOps guys get very attached to their local assets and are concerned about their well-being. I am certain that is what this is about.
Pretty much.
My best interpreter was a Kurd, and I am still pretty close with the guy (granted, this is Iraq, not Syria). After everything that guy risked for me and our unit, you’d have to be a psychopath not to feel a personal connection.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:38 am to Jbird
No, he can only have 2/3 of your opinion due to strict service date protocol.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:38 am to Tesla
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No, he can only have 2/3 of your opinion due to strict service date protocol.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:40 am to AbuTheMonkey
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My best interpreter was a Kurd, and I am still pretty close with the guy (granted, this is Iraq, not Syria). After everything that guy risked for me and our unit, you’d have to be a psychopath not to feel a personal connection.
Is he still in Iraq? Did he or his family face any reprisals?
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:51 am to Dale51
Yes, allowing. As soon as we moved those troops out, Turkey invades and attacks the Kurds who fought as our allies against ISIS. Not a good look.
Some have suggested it was contrived, and if so that's even worse.
Some have suggested it was contrived, and if so that's even worse.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:57 am to crazy4lsu
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Is he still in Iraq? Did he or his family face any reprisals
Yes, he is still there. He finished up university recently and works in Baghdad now. His older brother (also a former terp) now lives in the U.S.
Everyone in his family except him and his brother (who both stayed and worked with Americans) fled Iraq pretty early in the war (2003 - 2005 timeframe) to Lebanon and Syria because it was too dangerous, so his family didn’t directly face reprisals because they’d fled the country.
He would cover his face when on patrol with us so all you could see were his eyes whenever he was around anyone except just us, as he didn’t want anyone - including nominally “friendly” Iraqi forces - to know his face, even in crazy heat. He was smart about keeping a low profile.
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