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Did the Supreme Court leave itself open to litigation?

Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:00 pm
Posted by hsfolk
Member since Sep 2009
18543 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:00 pm
they mentioned that nobody without direct ties to U.S. residents would be allowed in, but that seems vague as to what constitutes a direct tie
Posted by Bamapossum
Alabama
Member since Jan 2006
1105 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:01 pm to
You do know the Supreme Court cannot be sued?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98859 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:01 pm to
Dafuq?
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62446 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:02 pm to
First order relative...
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
9201 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:02 pm to
They listed out some examples of what a direct tie will look like.

In the end this will be a moot question anyway because before all of this can be figured out the Executive Order will expire and new travels guidelines will be instituted by the proper departments.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25321 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:02 pm to
I'm sure the Muslim Brotherhood is drafting the case now. The are hopeful their case versus the USSC will be in a Sharia Court.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32815 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:02 pm to
That's not what they said at all. And their ruling was specifically regarding Trump's EO.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35406 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:03 pm to
quote:

Did the Supreme Court leave itself open to litigation?
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41686 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:03 pm to
Nah, but the ruling's interpretation will probably be challenged when someone gets stopped from boarding a plane and phone's back to the US. Other judges will have to fight that battle.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76526 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:03 pm to
quote:

ban on visitors from Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen can be enforced if those visitors lack a "credible claim of a bona fide relationship with a person or entity in the United States."


Seems pretty straight forward
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27072 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:03 pm to
While SCOTUS gave guidance, yes, there is some ambiguity. But no, SCOTUS is never "open to litigation".
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15047 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:04 pm to
I'm going to be kind and presume that the OP meant to say "Didn't the SCOTUS know that with this ruling being so unclear, it is just going to invite more and more lawsuits and drag this thing on for years"?

At least I hope that is what he meant.

I said I was being kind.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

they mentioned that nobody without direct ties to U.S. residents would be allowed in, but that seems vague as to what constitutes a direct tie


Supreme Court.

Supreme.

SUPREME.

SUPREME.

SUPREME.



I hope this clarifies the answer for you.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79234 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

I'm going to be kind and presume that the OP meant to say "Didn't the SCOTUS know that with this ruling being so unclear, it is just going to invite more and more lawsuits and drag this thing on for years"?



Which is precisely (maybe minus the "years" aspect) that Gorsuch said.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41200 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

they mentioned that nobody without direct ties to U.S. residents would be allowed in, but that seems vague as to what constitutes a direct tie


Did you read the ruling? They did spell it out in detail, examples are

quote:

If U.S. citizens claim close relatives from one of the targeted countries, they will be able to do so.

If U.S. universities have accepted students from one of the targeted countries, the students will be able to enter the U.S. and start their studies.

If a U.S. business has given a job to a worker from one of the targeted countries, the worker will be able to do that job.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:17 pm to
Maybe to the Ultimate Supreme Court?
Or
The Secret Top Supreme Court?
Or
The Tip Top Supreme Court?
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:25 pm to
Wut?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27072 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:28 pm to
quote:

Did you read the ruling? They did spell it out in detail, examples are


Thomas seems to think there is cause for concern:

quote:

Moreover, I fear that the Court’s remedy will prove unworkable. Today’s compromise will burden executive officials with the task of deciding—on peril of contempt— whether individuals from the six affected nations who wish to enter the United States have a sufficient connection to a person or entity in this country. See ante, at 11– 12. The compromise also will invite a flood of litigation until this case is finally resolved on the merits, as parties and courts struggle to determine what exactly constitutes a “bona fide relationship,” who precisely has a “credible claim” to that relationship, and whether the claimed relationship was formed “simply to avoid §2(c)” of Executive Order No. 13780, ante, at 11, 12. And litigation of the factual and legal issues that are likely to arise will presumably be directed to the two District Courts whose initial orders in these cases this Court has now— unanimously—found sufficiently questionable to be stayed as to the vast majority of the people potentially affected.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21259 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:31 pm to
I downvoted you for just being plain stupid. Seriously read up on how the government works.
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