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re: Deputies Try To Kill Pitbull, Kill a Teen

Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:06 am to
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:06 am to
You can't triple stamp a double stamp...

So, a bullet that richoted killed a kid after he "sicked" the dog on the police?

This is the Hill you're going to die on today?

This post was edited on 6/23/17 at 11:07 am
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73474 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:07 am to
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Mistake number one is someone owning a shite dog like a pit bull


Pitbulls are excellent dogs. It's not the breed's fault that thug owners neglect and abuse them.
This post was edited on 6/23/17 at 11:08 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:07 am to
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So, a bullet that richoted killed a kid after he "sicked" the dog on the police?


Uh. What? Where did he sick the dog on the police? Jesus.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:07 am to
Pit bull owners are trash 99.99999% of the time.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:08 am to
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Officers feared for their well-being. Kid may have been in a gang. Good shoot.


Give it a rest, man. It was a ricochet, from what I understand. None sad they feared for their lives with the kid. You sound like a liberal when you try to twist stuff to fit your narrative.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:11 am to
I didn't say they feared for their lives because of the kid. You're facing some cognitive dissonance in your belief that cops are usually not at fault and some glaring counter examples. Relax and let the dissonance become consonance.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:12 am to
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Unloading your weapon at a moving animal amidst a crowd of people.



Is everybody doing the twist, today?

A crowd of one. And the one was around back of the building. It was a ricochet.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:14 am to
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A crowd of one. And the one was around back of the building. It was a ricochet.


What the frick? No he wasn't.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:17 am to
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I bet if that dog was a Izzo's Burrito it wouldn't have got shot!!!!



Probably not, but I haven't seen a burrito charge at a cop, yet. Perhaps you have?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:20 am to
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A crowd of one. And the one was around back of the building. It was a ricochet.

quote:

What the frick? No he wasn't.


The article I read said the kid took to dog around to the back of the building and the dog came around the corner charging them. They found the kid later with a wound to the chest.

LINK

Garcia-Muro appeared, corralled the dog and took it to the back of the apartment complex as the deputies moved to the street to focus on the injured officer. The pit bull then came running from the back of the residence, prompting a pair of deputies to open fire on it from up to seven feet away. Soon after the shooting, authorities found Garcia-Muro suffering from a gunshot wound to the chest near the back of the complex. He later died at a hospital.

Maybe there are other articles saying something different? I only read the one. I'm not trying to be purposely obtuse like some others in this thread. If I am wrong, I will admit it.

ETA
Just went to another article and it said this:

"Our initial impression was [the deputies] didn't even see the individual coming around from the side of the building."

So you were apparently correct...he had come from behind the building. My apologies.
This post was edited on 6/23/17 at 11:24 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:25 am to
Ok. Fair enough.

We don't know when he was shot. We don't know the place in the complex he was shot. Until we know more details, we can wait to indict the cops on forums. They won't be indicted anywhere else.
This post was edited on 6/23/17 at 11:27 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:28 am to
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We don't know when he was shot. We don't know the place in the complex he was shot. Until we know more details, we can wait to indict the cops on forums. They won't be indicted anyehrrr else.


Apparently the news articles are all over the place. One I found said the kid was the owner and had tied the dog up...but the dog broke free. Others are saying the dog belonged to a neighbor.

Another indicated the kid came from around the building 40 feet away, while others are saying he (the kid)was throwing himself across the body of the dog to protect it.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38244 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:29 am to
So now he gets it.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:30 am to
I get it all the time.

You don't. You're a fricking moron.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38244 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:32 am to
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ou don't. You're a fricking moron


I'm not the moron that posted this thread the minute he got a notification from the BLM racist movement.

And without all of the details and evidence that could come out.

And then call another poster into the thread to fit their narrative.

MORON!
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
35988 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:33 am to
Cops hold more power in their hands than any other person in society, even lawyers and judges. They have the ability to end one's freedom and take one's life at the blink of an eye. If anyone should be held strictly liable for their actions due to the power they yield, it's police. Instead, we have taken the opposite approach and basically absolve cops of almost all wrongdoing when it involves the use of force. If a civilian shot a dog and a ricochet bullet hit and killed a kid said civilian would almost certainly be charged with manslaughter.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:37 am to
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I'm not the moron that posted this thread the minute he got a notification from the BLM racist movement.


If you'll notice my OP link, it's a St. Louis TV station. It happened yesterday. And again, the victim isn't black. At some point, you'll either admit there's a problem or you're going to keep pretending stuff happens that didn't (he sicced his dog on the police).
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:37 am to
I'm not sure what y'alls beef is with each other, but every single shooting has to be taken a single event, and not all lumped together to prove or disprove a point.


All the cops are not getting together and deciding to hold open season on the public. Some cops are good, and there are some bad cops. I try to put myself in the place of the cop and the victim to see what they were thinking at the time. Did the cop have a reason to believe he might be in danger? Would I have pulled my weapon if I were in that situation? Did the victim do what every reasonable person should do?

I have seen women make an argument that a woman dressed scantily and in a bar getting drunk should not be raped. They are correct. They should not be. However, you increase you chances of it if you dress provocatively and put yourself in a dangerous situation.

Same for cops/victims. Should the victim not be shot? Probably not. But if you have a weapon and you are moving around inside a car...or if throw yourself across a dog that is charging LEOs after one has already been bitten bad things might happen.

Should the kid have been killed? No. Does it surprise me under those circumstances? No.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:40 am to
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or if throw yourself across a dog that is charging LEOs after one has already been bitten bad things might happen.


I doubt this is what happened. The narrative from police reads like a giant frick up. I will be very surprised if they shot the kid as he was draped over the pit bull.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:40 am to
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If anyone should be held strictly liable for their actions due to the power they yield, it's police. Instead, we have taken the opposite approach and basically absolve cops of almost all wrongdoing when it involves the use of force. If a civilian shot a dog and a ricochet bullet hit and killed a kid said civilian would almost certainly be charged with manslaughter.


Maybe. What I would like to see is pay the cops a whole lot more money since they put their lives on the line every single day. Then as you attract a higher quality individual hold them more accountable.

Before I retired, I made a whole lot more money than most cops, and I did not have to put my life in jeopardy.
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