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re: Definitive #Obamagate Timeline (8PM 3/17 Update)

Posted on 3/5/17 at 10:34 pm to
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 10:34 pm to
Well regardless of all of that, we at least know he was briefed on the wiretapping
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 10:37 pm to
Where we at with this Josh?

You're saying Obama knew about wiretaps and is denying meeting with FBI before they sought warrants?
This post was edited on 3/5/17 at 10:38 pm
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 10:39 pm to
If you want the facts with no supposition:

Trump associates were spied on starting in early-to-mid 2016. Obama didn't officially direct these surveillance instances. The surveillances turned up no evidence
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39568 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 10:41 pm to
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Yes, it's her job. And she doesn't need Obama's permission to do it, and she's putting him in a dangerous position if she does talk to him when she could probably guess his answer.

Bear in mind she probably thought that this FISA would either produce a smoking gun or remain secret. She couldn't lose


Jesus Christmas, just no.

She is, and always has been an Obama puppet.
She didn't just take it upon herself to start spying on the republican presidential candidate and risk the legacy of Obama and the entire dem party. This is Nixonian shite here.
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 10:42 pm to
They could only set up surveillance on Trumps server correct?

Same time Clinton tweets about Trump server?

So collusion was going on at the very least.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39568 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 10:46 pm to
quote:


They could only set up surveillance on Trumps server correct?

Same time Clinton tweets about Trump server?

So collusion was going on at the very least.


It's awful convenient that "computer scientists" just "stumble upon" this information right on the heels of the FISA warrant. With all of the IC leaks and political chicanery revealed within, it's just too convenient.
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
GEAUX TIGERS!
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 10:57 pm to
quote:

Anything other than what is in that order, i.e. snooping/listening to everything and anything other than dire terrorist activity that could harm this nation, and it leaked to any agency-arses will be


Wouldn't this make Obama's EO about opening up all of the Intel agencies to freely share information be... what? Unconstitutional? Illegal? There is something to that executive order. If Trumps can be rescinded b/c it didn't pass "due process" BS that all the dems were complaining about then surely this EO has fault as well.

BTW, not sure if this NYT article is pertinent but it discusses the fact that the FBI found no connection b/w Trump & Russia... dated Oct. 31, 2016

LINK

ETA: this article also discusses criminal, as well as national security charges.
This post was edited on 3/5/17 at 11:00 pm
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 11:02 pm to
quote:

Obama didn't officially direct these surveillance instances.


I mean people can say it all they want; however, the opposing party's presidential nominee is not going to be spied on without the President's knowledge and blessing. There isn't a politician/government official on earth that would be ok with that risk/reward unless they were the sitting President.
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 11:05 pm to
quote:

LSUTANGERINE


Are any of those links illegal?

Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53495 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 11:12 pm to
Don't forget the interview of the liberal writer, Areu, who states her source inside Obama's WH (Areu says a powerful woman there for 7 years) says it's 100% true!

Obama knew and ok'd the taps, the only thing not known was who suggested it.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 11:17 pm to
quote:

If you want the facts with no supposition:

Trump associates were spied on starting in early-to-mid 2016. Obama didn't officially direct these surveillance instances. The surveillances turned up no evidence

There is a whole lotta supposition in this. We have no idea who was tapped, when and what they found.

And it takes a long time to do these investigations and sift through evidence. Case in point, investigation into hillary's email took years.

What we do know is that Trump could clear this up very quickly by explaining what he knows and how he came to know it.
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 11:18 pm to
quote:

Jake Tapper @jaketapper WH officials with whom I spoke said POTUS got the info about wiretap from media - Breitbart, Levin - not from govt sources.


Let's also not forget these (Obama) "Whitehouse sources"

March 5, 2017
LINK
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 11:39 pm to
In case no one has posted it, apparently this was talked about back in October.



The server that was used as probable cause in the FISA request that was supposedly communicating with a Russian bank was setup by McMullin.

The domain was registered to the Trump OrgAINZation. It was registered by Ex-CIA and Never Trumper Evan McMullin’s sister, Emily McMullin. The GoDaddy account was opened in 2009, but the domain was registered on 6/29/2016 – right around the time of the first FISA request.

This post was edited on 3/5/17 at 11:40 pm
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
GEAUX TIGERS!
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 11:52 pm to
quote:

The server that was used as probable cause in the FISA request that was supposedly communicating with a Russian bank was setup by McMullin.



Surely they can't be that stupid to actually put their names on it. Is this real?

Isn't McCain linked to McMullin?
Posted by Mephistopheles
Member since Aug 2007
8328 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 12:18 am to
So recent Louise Mench tweet may help bulk out your timeline

[quote]James Comey told a FISA court three separate times he believed @realDonaldTrump was a Russian agent of influence LINK ]

So three court dates?
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51914 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 12:35 am to
Even if this turns to nothing major, there is enough smoke that libs will have to stop circulating images that include the point of his administration not having a single scandal. So sad.
This post was edited on 3/6/17 at 12:36 am
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32119 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 12:36 am to
The Obama Justice Department spied on Trump under the ridiculous pretext he is a Russian agent.

That's an insane and transparent abuse of power.
This post was edited on 3/6/17 at 12:48 am
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 12:52 am to
Fake News. Obama can't order a FISA.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 1:05 am to
Yall are straight retarded.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16889 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 1:13 am to
quote:

This thread has nothing to do with Russian influence in the election. This thread is only dealing with the Obama Administration spying on Trump


The Russian conspiracy theory is their legal cover.
This post was edited on 3/6/17 at 1:15 am
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