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Debt increases by president

Posted on 4/20/24 at 6:06 pm
Posted by POTUS2024
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Posted on 4/20/24 at 6:06 pm
Debt by each president
Just passing this link along - interesting site with a lot of numbers and information on how the debt changed with each of our presidents and key events in their terms that had an effect on this.

Quick examples:
Obama - debt went from $12T to $20T, a rise of 70%.
Trump - debt went from $20T to $28T, a rise of 40%.
There are numbers for Biden but the debt number is six months old, roughly.

George W. Bush increased debt by 105%. I'd forgotten it was that much of a change.
Reagan increased it by 186%. There is some debate about Reagan's policies, and I believe the main culprit was increasing defense spending by 35%.

Anyway, it's interesting if you want to see how it changed through all of our presidents.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/20/24 at 6:08 pm to
But slowflow and rogerthecucker said all the inflation is soley on Orange bad
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56470 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 6:14 pm to
Trump had completely reversed Obamas crazy spending before COVID.

Biden has continued the crazy COVID spending.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17888 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 6:34 pm to
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Trump had completely reversed Obamas crazy spending before COVID.

The frick he did.

Are you being dishonest or are you just woefully ignorant?

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/20/24 at 6:36 pm to
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Trump had completely reversed Obamas crazy spending before COVID.


Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34711 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 6:49 pm to
The debt will continue to explode no matter who the president is. The actual president really can't do much to stop it at this point
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260327 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 6:53 pm to
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The actual president really can't do much to stop it at this point


Eventually, the response will be higher taxes. There is no willpower to touch military or entitlement spending.
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
10246 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 6:58 pm to
quote:

The debt will continue to explode no matter who the president is. The actual president really can't do much to stop it at this point


Mostly because he is brain dead
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21563 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:02 pm to
quote:

Quick examples:
Obama - debt went from $12T to $20T, a rise of 70%.
Trump - debt went from $20T to $28T, a rise of 40%.
There are numbers for Biden but the debt number is six months old, roughly.


Why do you think % increases are the best way to track debt increases? Outside of fondling Trump's balls, of course.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17888 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:04 pm to
quote:

Why do you think % increases are the best way to track debt increases? Outside of fondling Trump's balls, of course.

And in fairness, it should be noted that Trump ran up his debt in 4 years to Obama's 8.
Posted by beaux duke
Member since Oct 2023
403 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:05 pm to
One small detail -
Obama - debt went from $12T to $20T in 8 yrs
Trump - debt went from $20T to $28T in 4 yrs
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71421 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:05 pm to
Way to defend your boy
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7691 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:06 pm to
Frick the percentages. Just give us the increase in US dollars. But that wouldn’t fit your narrative would it?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:07 pm to
quote:


Trump had completely reversed Obamas crazy spending before COVID.




No he didn't
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:08 pm to
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George W. Bush increased debt by 105%. I'd forgotten it was that much of a change.
Reagan increased it by 186%.
I had a modeling mentor that taught me to always be suspicious of anyone using percentages. ^ is the perfect example of why.

Also that GWb number was almost all in 2008, which the outgoing president gets “credit” for, but in that year’s case it includes the massive “stimulus” bill that was passed under Obama, and TARP (which Obama got the profit credit for). Hell, the 2007 deficit was mere $160 Billion.

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There is some debate about Reagan's policies, and I believe the main culprit was increasing defense spending by 35%.
Nope. Just as today Congress outspent revenue. Reagan wet as far as vetoing a budget bill. Congress overrode it. Not one year’s spending was at or lower than the presidential budget request. None.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17888 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:09 pm to
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Way to defend your boy

I guess I don't see my post as defending Trump. Are you enthusiastic about deficit spending, or something?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57216 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

Trump had completely reversed Obamas crazy spending before COVID.
No. Not one budget included any cuts year over year. Most of the pre-2020 spending was predetermined under the Obama admin, though. But none of that was cut.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71037 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:12 pm to
Shouldn't it be counted by House speakers?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57216 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:12 pm to
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Eventually, the response will be higher taxes
Anf that will fail. The “rich” don’t have enough income to balance the current budget. Even if you took all of it above $1m. You’d only do that once, since capital is mobile. The famine would be devastating.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
2316 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:13 pm to
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The frick he did. Are you being dishonest or are you just woefully ignorant?


Could you provide the rate of increase from 2017-2019 to support your theory?
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